Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on April 16, 2023, 04:24:56 PM

Quote from: Kruw on April 16, 2023, 02:55:48 PM

...Which can happen to you in Joinmarket as well. You can get censored by the coordinator and you can't even detect they are doing this.

You will not be using a coordinator which clarifies it will censor you if you happen to not fulfill one of their arbitrary and unknown criteria.

How do you know the coordinator is not censoring you and checking to see if you fulfill their arbitrary and unknown criteria? You don't choose the coordinator as the maker, the coordinator chooses you: zkSNACKs, the very same default coordinator as Wasabi Wallet, can be the coordinator of your JoinMarket transaction and you would have no idea.

Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on April 16, 2023, 04:24:56 PM

You will not be paying for the "privilege" of having your coins ethically approved by some strangers.

Makers don't pay coordinators at all in JoinMarket. Coordinators pay makers.

Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on April 16, 2023, 04:24:56 PM

You will not be using a software whose developers are provably outright liars when it comes to privacy and fungibility.

What "provably outright lie"?

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on April 16, 2023, 04:29:07 PM

Quote from: Kruw on April 16, 2023, 04:22:35 PM

The way to prevent being censored as a maker in Joinmarket is to coordinate the transaction yourself (become a taker).

No, it isn't. The way to prevent being censored as a maker in JoinMarket is to do nothing.

"Doing nothing" is the result of being censored as a maker in JoinMarket. Your coins just sit there instead of being coordinated.

Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on April 16, 2023, 04:29:07 PM

If one taker wants to support mass surveillance and attempt to censor you it literally doesn't matter; there are thousands more who don't.

When Wasabi censors you, then tough shit.

What do you mean "then tough shit"? I've told you multiple times that you can use a different coordinator for WabiSabi coinjoins or run your own:

Quote from: Kruw on April 14, 2023, 03:56:17 PM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on April 14, 2023, 03:35:51 PM

I've read most of the posts/replies towards Kruw, and I think that everyone is making too much commotion over nothing but a trade-off taken by a group of developers, who, believes that the best path forward for Wasabi Wallet is to make the centralized coordinator block outputs from nefarious sources. The solution, in my personal opinion is, fork the coordinator and have it accept all outputs from all sources.

Yep. Anyone who feels brave enough to copy and paste the coordinator code can do so. Others have already because they actually care about what they are saying: https://t.me/WasabiWallet/70611

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