Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on Today at 08:35:32 AM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on Today at 08:18:06 AM

I'm on your side, but to play the Devil's Advocate, those "better services" are like sitting ducks. Sooner or later a S.W.A.T. team is telling them that their front door is about to break down. It's probably why services like WasabiWallet and some exchanges have accepted the trade-off to act in-accordance to government demands.

How do you propose law enforcement take down JoinMarket, which is software which is run on thousands and thousands of individual computers around the world, via Tor, and has no central coordinator? How do you propose they take down Bisq, which has the same set up?

The truly decentralized services are resistant to censorship in exactly the same way bitcoin itself is. A government could shutdown a centralized exchange or Wasabi's centralized coordinator, but they can't shutdown every Bisq trader or every JoinMarket user, just as they can't shutdown every bitcoin node.

They can't, but sometimes they don't have to. If they can't take it down they always turn to going after the user, or the developer.

I believe when using truly decentralized tools like JoinMarket and BISQ, the user must be extra careful because that's probably where most eyes of the government are looking. To the networks they can't take down.

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On another note, and I am deliberately not going to link to any of the tweets, but in the last 48 hours there has been a bunch of Twitter drama due to Wasabi publicly doxxing their competitors.

Says it all really. The landing page of wasabiwallet.io says in big font right at the start "Privacy is your ability to selectively reveal yourself to the world". And then the Wasabi devs completely ignore that statement and start doxxing people who disagree with them. Imagine trying to pass yourself off as pro-privacy as you fund blockchain analysis and dox people you don't like? Absolutely despicable behavior, and should show everyone just where the priorities of Wasabi lie. They don't care in the slightest about your privacy.

Can't wait for our resident shill to come and tell us how doxxing people you don't like is actually fine. Roll Eyes

Is it something with Samourai again?