Quote from: Josefjix on April 27, 2023, 07:47:22 PM

Quote from: KingsDen on April 27, 2023, 03:54:38 PM

Quote from: 1miau on April 27, 2023, 12:24:42 AM

Account selling undermines our Merit system as well because Account selling is similar to buying Merit. Buying Merit is not allowed, too.

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This is the strongest argument I have ever seen on BTT in favour of tagging sold accounts.

This is a bogus argument;

It's not a bogus argument at all.
Why should members here continue to write quality posts if you can buy Merits and get accepted into the best paying campaign and also stay in it for shitposting one-liners 24/7??
Buying / selling ranked accounts is undermining the Merit system and discouraging to write quality posts to achieve a higher rank if you can simply buy it.

Quote from: Cantsay on April 27, 2023, 08:27:51 PM

Quote from: Josefjix on April 27, 2023, 07:47:22 PM

This is a bogus argument; there are tons of people who buy accounts with literally zero merit (Newbies rank) and zero reputation and build them to the highest rank;

First of all why would someone buy a newbie acount when it takes less than 30 minutes to create an account here?

Exactly this. Cheesy

Why would someone buy a Newbie Account? Huh

Why risking to get scammed or tagged for buying an account with 0 Merit?
Why even paying money for this, when everyone can create a new account for free?
Just why??? Huh

Quote from: Josefjix on April 27, 2023, 07:47:22 PM

there are tons of people who buy accounts with literally zero merit (Newbies rank) and zero reputation and build them to the highest rank;

I'm sorry (not sorry) but you are completely clueless.
Your bullshit doesn't make any sense. Cheesy

Quote from: Josefjix on April 27, 2023, 07:47:22 PM

The DT system is only for scammers and high risk trade zones; tagging someone with zero scam history, who bought an account to participate in ~~discussion and forum activities~~ [signature campaigns [FTFY]] is clearly an abuse of the system.

You are clearly lacking any knowledge about DT and negative trust in general. Please go educate yourself before spreading misinformation here.
Buying and selling accounts have resulted in 99% of all detected and proven cases in the past getting tagged because account sales encourage scam and spam on the forum:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=232156

And no, it's not necessary to buy an account to participate in discussion and forum activities.
But buying an account is necessary to get accepted (and stay) in signature campaigns if you can't earn Merit for quality posts. Wink

That's how it is, deal with it!

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Quote from: 1miau on April 27, 2023, 12:24:42 AM

But as long as we don't have a working strategy to "legalize" account sales, it's best in my opinion to give out negative trust if there's enough evidence about sold / hacked accounts.

I wonder what comments others will make about your strategy because it effectively means a blanket ban for buying/selling accounts and dismisses by default any notion of mitigation (and any sympathy along with it). Will account sales ever be accepted, I doubt it but there could be exceptional circumstances we have not contemplated yet.

It's basically what DT has done with sold or hacked accounts in the past. Not a ban but a negative trust. So yes, people can buy / sell accounts but it will get tagged.
I believe once a sold or hacked account has been detected, there's a 99% chance, that the account will get tagged, if there is sufficient proof.
However, I'm always giving everyone the benefit of doubt.
For the case here of martyns, I've only submitted a neutral trust so far but I might change it into negative, considering his lies and involvement in other abuses. The negative trusts on his accounts are very valid.
And it's quite funny that sold or hacked accounts are often involved in various abuses, isn't it?
Maybe account buyers aren't so innocent as suggested here by a few members...