Quote from: vapourminer on Today at 01:22:27 PM

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 01:08:52 PM

Quote from: vapourminer on Today at 10:53:12 AM

AND guess how much ive lost to malware/virus/ransomware: IN 12 YEARS OF A HOT CORE WALLET IN WINDOWS,. ZERO NOTHING NADA ZILCH NEGATIVE

That sounds like survivor bias. Many people have never lost their coins, but that doesn't change the fact that many others did lose their coins. I've never needed my seat belt, but that doesn't guarantee I won't need it in the future.

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security all comes down to the person. rarely is it ONLY the OS thats the security problem..

True. But it can help a lot. I'm not installing Wine to run Windows malware.

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btw i use hardware wallets and paper wallets for my main stash, core and my phone have spending amounts.

And that's how it should be

As long as you can afford losing it, there's nothing wrong with using hot wallets.

funny you mention seat belts. i wear mine. but not for when i get hit although that reason is a pretty up there. but i wear them mainly to stay in the drivers seat when doing "stupid vapourminer things" like drifts, catching air in the favorite "how high can you get road jump" and stuff like that. as it sure does help still being in your seat to regain control when finally back on 4 wheels. so not sure if thats a good analogy? but off topic so..

survivorship bias is a thing thats for sure. as im living proof with all the seriously serious stupid things that i done lived through that a few friends didnt. RIP my some of old buddies.

anyhow i certainly dont advocate rolling with windows for security stuff for the general peeps with coin. but my results does go to show that if one is careful (and luck has a bit to do there too) you can be fairly safe.

gonna have to get my CP/M rig up. hack THAT

Of course, any of us who are sharing some of our coinholding arrangements run some risks in terms of perhaps describing our set-ups, and many of us recognize some value in terms of security through obscurity (even though that might not necessarily resolve some weak security practices either).... such as leaving your pass word in one room and your device in the other room, so it could be likely that for 10 years, no one even saw the two devices and put the matter together that they could have become richie at your expense.. but no one looked or asked... but still not a good practice for when the more cunning, observant, and perhaps dishonest person comes into your space.

For sure, if you invite an attacker or even tell the attacker that there is something of value present, then that would likely cause you to become more of a target, and depending on the sophistication and/or determination of your attacker, you may have to increase your security practices by magnitudes - merely because you drew attention to the matter.

I have had several occasions that I went on walks and did not lock my door, and even went to bed without locking my doors - and nothing happened in terms of my losing belongings or my getting attacked in my sleep.

I remember a pattern of occasions from about 15 years ago, in which my car (in a carport) kept getting broken into, but part of the problem was that I had continued to forget to hit the lock on the alarm key.. so the fact of the matter was that it kept getting broken into by mere handle testing of some passerby.. and I am not even sure if it was the same person.. but I am sure that there were some occasions in which not too many valuables were taken, and there were other occasions in which I was saying "oh shit, I wished that had not gotten taken from me."

I suppose some of the folks who might use a variety of ways of "securing their coins" might be more free to describe their various security practices, and surely sometimes there still might be needs for someone to actually physically visit before writing down your seeds on a note pad becomes an issue, in the event that no one ever visits you (who knows that your seeds are written on a notepad).... or other people who visit you and know that the seeds are written on the notepad do not really know how to use the seeds... or how much value is associated with the seeds.. even if they were to take possession of the seeds... for sure with the passage of time, more and more people are learning about what seeds are, why they are important and how to potentially use them - once they got their hands on some seeds.