Quote from: examplens on May 17, 2023, 10:08:35 PM

Can we ever trust what people from Ledger say anymore?
Only a few months ago, they claimed something completely different.

I never trusted them after many fiascos they had, leaking customer information multiple times, low quality check of their devices, battery issues, short support for older devices, closed source, etc...
That being said, we should be very careful with all other hardware wallet manufacturers, they can turn on users and make deals with devil in a same way like ledger.
Big red flag should be when manufacturers start to collect millions and billions of dollars from different campanies.

Quote from: LoyceV on May 18, 2023, 06:34:25 AM

I hadn't seen this before, and it makes me wondering: if Bob would get their hands on Alice's Ledger, would it be possible to upgrade the firmware and upload it online? I always thought the whole point of a hardware wallet is to make it impossible for private keys to touch the internet, but now it's starting to look like an expensive hot wallet.

This is what ledger claimed before, but now they are changing tune with different ''song''.
They turned impossibility into new feature Roll Eyes

Quote from: theymos on May 18, 2023, 11:57:49 PM

It strikes me as very unlikely that anything related to this is going to cause widespread losses anytime soon, so I don't think that an Important Announcement is necessary.

Probably, but many people could still lose privacy, and mystery sharding encryption was never verified by anyone.

Quote from: theymos on May 18, 2023, 11:57:49 PM

I edited Ledger out of my "do not keep your money in online accounts" post. I still want to recommend some hardware wallet which is fairly easy-to-use, so I left Trezor in, even if it may not be perfect.

I think currently best open source wallet could be Passport by Foundation.
They are 100% Bitcoin only device with open source code and reasonable price compared to Trezor Model T.
No shitcoins there (unless someone makes community project support).