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Quote from: paxmao on Today at 08:32:45 PM

Quote from: theskillzdatklls on Today at 08:12:47 AM

The amount of Reddit tier cope that's going to justify how losing Bakhmut is actually a good thing.

The reality is, it was a very strategically important city because it now gives them access to a lot of roads a geographically significant areas. Over the coming weeks/months, expect Russia to take a lot of territory pushing up to the next/final cities in the Donbass region.

There is nothing good about loosing Bakhmut, but it does not change much the strategic map nor possibilities.

As of now, the RF fails in all that is not shelling cities and using cannon fodder to take them. It has been months since they cannot make any significant advance outside that type of dirty battle that leaves you with lots of losses and basically a flat land. Now they are trying to make Bakhmut a big thing, like a great victory or the like, but it is not, is in fact a very minimal progress.

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Quote from: paxmao on May 20, 2023, 11:02:24 PM

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You are not offering "the unofficial truth", you are not linking to "an alternative better information", you are simply blurting information that is detached from reality to the point that is basically fake. This might or not change, but NATO does not want the RF to show any kind of credible victory simply because after this war they will wage another, and another,...

All the things you talk about in your post that I have partially quoted, are save-face operations for the US and Nato getting out of Ukraine....

Cool

No, 2.8 billion and sending fighter jets, latest generation cruise missiles and training thousands of troops is not save-face sorry, it is proper help. In my view, much more could be done, but this is real. You of course will not recognise any of this, but it does not matter - the Storm Shadows and HIMARS destroy depots without your help.

Speaking of which... there seem to be some clouds of smoke in Mariupol. I wonder if the RD recruits are still smoking near weapons depots and using telegram 600 at the time?

$2.8 billion, you say. Did you notice that the amounts are slacking off? Soon it will be $2.8 thousand. The Russians and Wagner are sitting back and chuckling about how dumb Ukrainians have become since the smart ones left Ukraine like a year ago.

Cool

No, I do not "say", I link. This discussion is gone, the support from NATO is so evident that there is no need to further proof.

politico.eu/article/urkaine-war-germ

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Germany approves new €2.7B package of arms for Ukraine

What I am "saying" is that how come no one in the RF seem to be worried about having an irregular army waging war in Ukraine, I mean, they are in Ukraine now, they can be in the streets of Moscow tomorrow - we are talking thousands. Or is the way Putin protects himself from a coup, by having two competing armies?