Quote from: n0nce on June 01, 2023, 07:35:25 PM

Quote from: Lucius on May 31, 2023, 02:27:48 PM

Quote from: safar1980 on May 31, 2023, 11:13:39 AM

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But I will buy a Trezor T wallet because they promised that the secret phrase would not leave the wallet.

Don't be naive, Ledger said the same thing in the past, and today we know that the whole story they told is a simple lie. Trezor has its vulnerabilities, and even cooperation with companies that deal with spying on Bitcoin users and censoring transactions is not something that can position them as reliable producers.

There is one big distinction to be made. If you own a Trezor Model T, since it's completely free open-source (FOSS) as in 'freedom', you can refuse to upgrade the firmware, downgrade the firmware, write your own, and patch new firmware versions that have features you don't like.

How many Trezor device users are able to do this? - Units.

Quote from: n0nce on June 01, 2023, 07:35:25 PM

You also are able to tell whether they try to sneak in some unwanted features and know whether new features are implemented securely, e.g. if any encryption used is secure.

Can say whatever want, but doing it is completely different. You seem to overestimate the capabilities of hardware wallet buyers, as if every second person is able to understand the source code of the firmware and check the safety of new functions. Get down to the ground. Trezor (or any other hardware wallet) users are ordinary people, completely far from understanding the technical aspects of these devices.

No one will puzzle out in trezor devices (from the majority of users), and the words of those who do this (analyze and summarize) should also be questioned if this is not your close friend or public person with an impeccable reputation.

Quote from: n0nce on June 01, 2023, 07:35:25 PM

If we just take one company who in a way betrayed its users and extrapolate it to all the companies, there is no wallet you can buy, no Linux distro you can install and no services you can use.

But this one company, through its antics, exposed the weaknesses of the entire industry and led users to question the words and actions of these companies. Blind trust does not bode well.

Quote from: n0nce on June 01, 2023, 07:35:25 PM

I would still not recommend a Model T right now, but at least if I got one, I knew what I'm getting, since code and hardware are open.

Why don't you recommend Model T right now? Is it related to one company betrayed of its users? By chance, you don't extrapolate it to this firm? Wink