Quote from: DaveF on Today at 11:11:29 AM

Quote from: John Abraham on June 07, 2023, 03:45:55 AM

Quote from: DaveF on June 06, 2023, 07:28:44 PM

Meh, I guess once again it proves criminals are lazy even in the amount of millions it's just time and effort to make it anonymous instead of going through a centralized mixer or exchange.

Huh? I thought only exchanges could be centralized. How the heck can a mixer be centralized?

Because you send crypto to it and they send it back and it's under the control of one person / company. Much like sinbad / whirlwind and a host of others.

Then you have things like joinmarket where everyone runs their own node which handles the coinjoins with others.
https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver

So had they run their own node, and then slowly trickled the coins in it would be impossible to prove anything.

-Dave

Could using a mixer be actually safe hundred percent considering this which has to do with the privacy itself and the fact that they are centralized, are we not going in search for help where help is also needed, maybe the best way is to learn this thing once and for all and know how to run a full node using bitcoincore and get this software over Tor client, here maximum privacy is guaranteed than going through a third party to secure one, my view anyway on this, maybe there could be more clarity to that in addition.