Quote from: EarnOnVictor on June 09, 2023, 06:39:14 AM

Quote from: shogun47 on June 09, 2023, 03:31:40 AM

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on June 08, 2023, 01:50:45 PM

Besides, we should not be using the financial stand of a club to be judging all the time, maybe we can learn from Seria A this season, it's more about the coach and the team thereof. Once they are good and determined to play, then they can be so surprising.

Isn't it a bit too romantic to say it is more about the coach?

I fully understand you on this, but it's obvious you took the words out of context, or you didn't read it in full. Coach has a very vital role in football but I can never give the praise of the success of any club to them alone. If you read my full post, you would realize that my defence is more about Bayern, many believe that their winning was not merited, which I don't accept. And I further iterated the effect of the coach and the entire team as determinants of the success of a club in most cases.

You can read it again to verify that.

I get what you said and my intention wasn't to take anything out of context. I apologize if it sounded like that. But what I wanted to say is you are right when it is not about luck that Bayern won the title, but there is something like "did they win it or did somebody else lose it?". I would say that this season Dortmund lost the title more than Bayern won it. Dortmund screwed it up so badly that they actually made Bayern win the title instead of Bayern made themselves win the title. Do you know what I mean?