Quote from: arimamib on June 17, 2023, 11:15:14 PM

Quote from: KTChampions on June 17, 2023, 10:38:03 PM

11 years without a title I would call a big failure than a good competition Grin

In general, Dortmund has actually turned into a trophy-free club - they sometimes win the German Cup, but all their significant successes like the Bundesliga title or some kind of Euro Cup are in the past. Sad situation for a top 2 club in Germany. In every other country, the top 2 (and even the top 3) have done significantly better in the last 10 years.

Dortmund management must change their attitude if they want to bring the Bundesliga title in the coming seasons because if they continue to sell star players, it is possible that Dortmund will fast for the title for the next 5 seasons. 10 years is quite a long time but Dortmund have always failed to break Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga.

In the bundesliga, only bayern munich is the most consistent in defending the bundesliga title because other teams are not able to do much because the depth of their squad is relatively dominated by ordinary players but in the depth of the bayern munich squad they are able to present many quality players.

It seems to me that success in the Bundesliga is not really that important - the difference in income from first and second place is not much different. An important difference is the ability of the club to compete in European competition. For example Real Madrid lost La Liga this year, but in the Champions League they played just one game less than the maximum possible number and received a lot of money + advertising. Thus, their year turned out to be much more successful than that of Barcelona if we take purely finances. Dortmund need to aim not just for the Bundesliga title, but to represent something in the European arena.