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Quote from: Branko on June 19, 2023, 10:07:33 AM

Quote from: paxmao on June 19, 2023, 08:47:05 AM

- US and Co. have proper intel on Ukraine, they know what is happening on the terrain. UK and US are still sending vehicles, munitions, support, training... The fact that they are still training pilots, about to provide f-16, etc. tells me that they believe Ukraine can improve the situation fighting instead of negotiating.

Again, false premise...you would be right if you would care about Ukrainians.
But, for your goals, dead Ukrainian is as worthy as dead Russian, if not more

I think this poster may be one of the endless-death enthusiasts here on this board who claims to be 'half-Jew' but I've forgotten the details. Seems like the _other_ half might be one of those satanic-kabbalist inbred chicken-swingers who sprouted up in that area over the past few hundred years and have sown misery around the world ever since.

Image at random from: https://wikkorg.wordpress.com/2015/08/06/even-jews-ask-is-judaism-a-satanic-cult-2/

Whatever the case, there has been a movement to 'make aliyah' to the 'Heavenly Jerusalem' in the historic pale-of-settlement for some years before the 'SMO' so I understand, and there seems to be widespread mirth among these weirdos in places like Odessa as the native peasants and serfs are wiped out in droves. Larry Fink over at Blackrock doesn't seem to mind either, and it will be interesting to understand what tie-in, if any, might be occurring between these groups.

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Quote from: be.open on June 16, 2023, 09:47:15 AM

It is already clear that the first stage of the Ukrainian counter-offensive has completely failed, but let's not jump to conclusions. Plan A and even plan B did not work, but what if the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine still has a trump card up its sleeve in the form of plan C?

While I'm a big believer in never underestimating one's enemies, I'm getting increasingly doubtful that the Ukrainians have any hope at all or any ability to generate or execute on someone elses' workable plan. This is getting pretty existential for them (or at least they perceive it as such and it certainly would be for Zelenski and the Nazis.) Their best hope is probably to threaten to start melting down nuclear power plants when the wind is blowing _toward_ the West as some sort of a perverse and illogical threat or something like that.

Quote from: be.open on June 16, 2023, 09:47:15 AM

After all, we have not yet seen a single British Challenger 2 tank on the battlefield and at least three-quarters of the Western-trained Offensive Guards have not been involved.

I'm more and more convinced by Ritter that Western weapons, and training in compressed format, does the poor fuckers more harm than good.

Quote from: be.open on June 16, 2023, 09:47:15 AM

What if my assumptions about the inherent defect in the training of NATO instructors are not true and the lack of coordination is primarily due to the effective work of Russian electronic warfare? In addition to Bradley, to compensate for losses, the US emergency aid package presented by Blinken also includes secure communications. I also saw fresh announcements of urgent deliveries from Europe of minesweepers to replace those lost in the first days of the counteroffensive and a large number of air defense missiles. It seems that this is exactly what the Armed Forces of Ukraine need now, if not to break through the Surovikin line, then at least get closer to it and organize concentrated pressure. Let's see.

Rational considerations for sure.

Speaking of Surovikin, I consider him the real hero of the whole effort from the Russian side. He chronically impresses me and although military history isn't one of my main interests, his performance matches that of any commander/planner/analyst I can think of off-hand. Dima's recent post is illustrative of the kinds of traps I'm guessing are all over the place...if the Ukrainians can get that far:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PSpHyarlJE

It doesn't seem to matter how many people die. And the leaders might care, but simply don't know what to do about 'situations'.

God didn't set this world up for war. He set it up for freedom and love. It was mans' idea to follow Satan and the ways of hate and destruction. God won't change His ways just to make peace, because people will never become peaceful no matter what He does.

Genghis Khan and his hordes almost took over the world. The thing that stopped their momentum into Europe was the death of the great Khan, himself. Their laws told them that they had to go back home to honor him after he died. The momentum stopped, and gave Europe the chance to prepare for the Mongol return.

What was the strategy that was the basic spirit of the laws of the Mongol horde that gave them such power? It was simply this. You never kill or even harm another Mongolian. But you fight fiercely with everything you have to kill and destroy all your enemies, taking out on them whatever anger you might have against a fellow Mongolian.

Probably neither Ukraine or Russia have this fierce dedication to destroying their enemy.

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