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Just imagine how we need to change the system of health care and society so that we can identify psychological problems at an early stage, because most people will never admit that they have any problems on a psychological level, although very many people have such problems to a greater or lesser extent.

In my opinion in order to do that we would have to introduce stricter control over each of us, and no one would like that, so society will never get rid of inadequate behavior of a certain percentage of people. We'll just have to accept it and be more attentive to our children and loved ones to protect our families from it.

While a more adequate treatment for those which suffer from a condition that is mostly on their minds would be great, the price we will have to pay as a society is too high, after all in these days in which people are connected with each other all the time and they share almost anything too, the only time they do not do so is when they are alone with their thoughts, if people were also forced to share whatever little private thoughts they have left they will surely complain about it and any reform on this regard will be quickly suppressed.

A good alternative remedy is not to let those who you love to stay alone.

If you will take some time to spend with them, the chance that they will divert some of their attentions and that will help
them to speak about something. Though there are people who are not vocal but the companionship will allow them to
lose focus on what they are doing. It helps not to let them getting addicted.

This was once a failed experiment to me, we've done it before for a family friend that got addicted to gambling and things look better and I personally spend a week with this fella just to make sure he won't be alone, I thought him few other things that can keep him busy and make money in the process, but after several months he went back into gambling, my point is when are you not going to leave them?

There will be a time where they will be alone, the best way to beat gambling adddict is if the gambler is willing to beat the addict himself, they need to put in the work themselves, and that's when the chains of addiction will break finally.

If you are the only one that has the mind to save a gambling addict from addiction, you have alreday failed before you begin.

I understand your perspective. Its frustrating when efforts to help someone seemingly vanish into thin air. However, I don't agree with your assertion that the helper is predestined to fail if they're the only ones interested in the recovery. Its true that the afflicted must want to overcome their addiction, but the support from their network can sometimes trigger that desire. Your case with your family friend might have been unsuccessful, but this doesnt represent every case. Relapse is part of recovery, and it shouldnt be seen as a total failure

I understand all of you guys, but @Blitzboy, you should not blame someone for giving up on an addict, you can only know their frustration if you are in their shoes. I have a case study of a neighbour's son at present, a guy of almost 30 living his life like a teenager due to gambling. The addition of this guy started over 10 years ago and a lot of people have tried, they've even tried a lot of church deliverances. If a parent, family and friends have tried so much in that years as this guy is still doing it, you can't blame them. This guy goes beyond borrowing money to gamble or gamble on credit but further uses house equipment as collateral for gambling, it's really pissing.

Do you know what a pastor and a counsellor said? They said he can only become whole when he realizes that what he's doing is bad all by himself. I wonder what else people could do to help such guy again.