Quote from: JayJuanGee on June 27, 2023, 06:53:09 PM

Quote from: JimboToronto on June 26, 2023, 07:31:38 PM

Quote from: BobLawblaw on June 26, 2023, 05:59:33 PM

Buckle up, buckaroos.

Coin up, coinaroos.
Cool

That's a very cornie expression....

Quote from: Gachapin on June 26, 2023, 11:50:48 PM

Quote from: Richy_T on June 24, 2023, 11:26:31 PM

Quote from: Gachapin on June 24, 2023, 09:17:47 PM

1)
Trading rule based on S2F model. Buy BTC 6 months before halving and sell 18 month after halving. Outperforms BTC buy&hold in both return and risk....
https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1650778260442062848
2)
Quant Investing 101
https://planbtc.com/20220807QuantInvesting101.pdf

But who knows how long we can rely on the previous cycle performance. You never know if next time will be different ....

My rule 0 is someone has a better model than you unless this is something you do full-time and their gain will likely be your loss.

overlooked your comment.

True. Cannot argue with that. One could add that it's not only about the better model but also about the deeper pockets.

I have issues with these various theories about "manipulation," and sure bigger players might be able to play their hands better, and they might even have some abilities to get access to insider information (or perhaps even see how the markets might move with their own deployment of capital); however, most people still have to figure out their own strategies, including figuring out how much they are even going to enter into the game.

And, yeah, maybe we (the three of us) are saying similar things, but still I get senses of futility coming out of both of you (Gachapin and Richy_T).. or at least you seem to be somewhat heavily subscribing to ideas that the cards are stacked against the little guy... and maybe that is somewhat true, but not so much with bitcoin. Bitcoin is and has been an investment in which the little guy (retail) have been able to front run the BIGGER players, and since we are still early (believe it or not), the little guy (retail) can still front run the BIGGER players.. even if s/he is a newbie no coiner or a low coiner - who might be in the earlier stages of building the size of his/her bitcoin stash.

So who cares whatever the supposed manipulators are doing and their various strategies, the little guy (retail) can figure out his own situation and attempt to be as aggressive as he feels (believes) that s/he is capable of being in terms of stacking sats without getting reckt.. and the information is already available to him/her.. stack as many sats as you can, and likely in 4-10 years (or maybe a little longer) you will be in a much better place.. so long as you have been mostly focused on accumulating through various buying strategies, such as DCA, buying on dips and lump sum buying, and don't be fucking around with selling as an accumulation strategy, until you are well into profits and until you are largely over invested in bitcoin.. and ONLY you can figure out those various thresholds.. perhaps practicing and studying along the way, and don't get too worked up or worried if their might be some folks (such as BIG players) who you believe that might be doing better than you, when in fact, since you are still early, there are a lot of players, including BIG players who still have little to no clue about the idea of building a bitcoin portfolio and aggressively stacking sats.

I think you are mixing up two things a bit here JJG.
Me and Richy_T were talking about trading not accumulating and hodling. Going in an out the market to maximize profits, opposed to just buy & hold.

Surely you recognize that when it comes to trading the little guy has definitely a disadvantage against bigger players. They have deeper pockets, more sophisticated analysis tools and often inside info (of exchanges and other bog players).

And I'm on the same page with you that the best strategy for the little guy is to accumulate as much as possible. Especially since he's able to frontrun institutions that have no possibility yet to accumulate due to regulatory issues.