Quote from: Nwada001 on July 10, 2023, 04:43:41 PM

The picture looks like S1, which is a little cheaper than what you first ordered (Trezor). But I would not consider it foolishness like you have tagged it, but I will say it's being more careful in order not to lose funds to scammers. A lot of things are happening these days, and you never can tell when they are the ones trying to manipulate your order or the real custom. Be that as it may, it all ended up that you got your funds back and you have taken note of the approach that was used to reach out to you by the custom agents.

Congratulations on taking a step further in ways of protecting your Bitcoin holdings.
But according to this , Safepal hardware wallet review and opinions It's said to be that Safepal's hardware wallet is closed source, which could make it not as safe as it might seem to be unless the developers behind it could no one else could be able to read and verify the code to know what they are really up to in the background.

Yep, at first I thought it was a scam because honestly I've never ordered anything from overseas before except maybe from some e-commerce which usually does ship immediately but this was a little different so it was something new for me.
Thanks for the link I'll have a look at it and I do realise all forms are not as safe as they are made out to be so I'm going to start being more cautious about this and it'll probably just be a temporary wallet before I get something I think is worth it.

Quote from: Z-tight on July 10, 2023, 04:55:30 PM

Quote from: Ryu_Ar1 on July 10, 2023, 03:16:05 PM

However, given the cases of people losing their assets on Electrum, even though it may have been their own negligence,

Hot wallets are prone to hacking, the people who lost their BTC's on Electrum either had it on a hot wallet and fell for the tricks of scammers or they exposed their seed phrase. If you run Electrum on an air-gapped device and you know what you are doing, then it is as secure as a hardware wallet.

Quote from: Ryu_Ar1 on July 10, 2023, 03:16:05 PM

I'm wary because I realise that I'm one of those people who can be very careless and still make mistakes when it comes to seed storage.

Even with your hardware wallet you have to store your seed phrase in a secure location, if you are careless or make a mistake with it, you'll still lose your funds just as you'll do with a software or hot wallet.

Safepal isn't one of the recommended hardware wallets you can get, neither is Trezor anyway, because of their implementation of wasabi CoinJoin which is pro-surveillance. Safepal is a closed soure hardware wallet and they don't support things like full node, multi-sig, coin control or other wallet software, like Electrum, i don't think it is a great idea to use a hardware wallet with this many flaws and so much more i didn't mention.

It's like I said, it will be fine actually because there are still many who use electrum but with my laziness, especially for electrum, which is just copying the existing seed, I am sometimes lazy to rewrite it and that is indeed one of the main problems I have.
As for this, I am a little more intentional because this must at least be written so that we do not lose our seeds.

For the condition about Safepal I will pay more attention to the suggestions of some friends and I will review first whether this can continue to be done here or not but btw thanks to the suggestions you gave I will pay attention to this.

Quote from: jossiel on July 10, 2023, 07:19:04 PM

When I've ordered a hardware wallet, customs didn't asked nor call me but it varies per country. Safepal from what I've heard has got good reviews.

I can't be sure whether the call was genuine or not but certainly after the call was from a person claiming to be a customs employee and asking for some money on the grounds of taxes etc. and I didn't serve it automatically my order seemed to be returned by force and my money was also returned because I failed to get the package I wanted.

Quote from: The Cryptovator on July 10, 2023, 07:58:15 PM

A hardware wallet is always superior to a hot wallet. Its security is nearly impenetrable because transaction confirmations must be made through the device. While I am unfamiliar with the Safepal wallet, it appears to have earned trust among lists of hardware wallets. Personally, I have been using a Ledger wallet since the start of my hardware wallet experience. Congratulations on prioritizing the safety of your funds! Just remember to store your seed phrase in a secure location.

This is my consideration to strengthen security with a hardware wallet.
Indeed, sometimes about a product (in this case a hardware wallet) there will definitely be pros and cons when talking about satisfaction and security and trust but that can still be said to be reasonable because all have their own opinions and experiences but for now I will probably use this because this is my first hard wallet but it does not rule out the possibility of looking for a hardware wallet that can be said to be better like Ledger or some other suggestions from people who have experienced it in the future.

Quote from: mk4 on July 10, 2023, 08:20:55 PM

Just mainly due to curiosity — not saying that SafePal is bad or whatever(I have no idea because I never researched it), but how did you end up picking SafePal? Knowing that the Bitcoiner hardware wallet trio is Trezor-Ledger-ColdCard.

Actually there are several reasons because for some hard wallets such as Ledger or Trezor I still haven't found an official reseller in my country it makes me a little doubtful if buying in some e-commerce I see that here https://www.ledger.com/reseller and https://trezor.io/resellers as for Safepal it already exists.
for the second reason maybe because I failed when buying trezor before so I want to try to anticipate the same thing happening actually.
and the last one is from the actual price Cheesy

My condition is not good in finance but I still want a Hardwere wallet. Although I realise when sometimes the price is cheap there will definitely be some weaknesses but for the time being I still feel it's still quite better.