Quote from: Gachapin on July 11, 2023, 10:54:13 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 07, 2023, 03:46:49 PM

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Excuse my late reply...

you made very rational and valid points. But the (different kind of) bear markets are an emotional thing to me. No matter how many times I tell myself to go through them in a rational manner they always tend to drag on to my emotions.

So when in doubt I often anticipate the worse case which is down. And most of the time when I say something like "we will (probably) go down", it's a sort of despair and an attempt to soothe my before mentioned emotions, not a prediction.

.... in your description of the various coiners that can't wait for them corns to go up again you seem to have forgotten one kind:
the one ho hasn't sold shit *again*, and who faces another barren run for several years *again* Roll Eyes

I know that there are all types of HODLers and soothsayer wannabes out there... and of course, we can never be sure the extent to which any of are talking our book, our emotions or some other thing that motivates us in how we frame our predictions (or lack of predictions).

Quote from: Gachapin on July 11, 2023, 11:48:31 PM

Quote from: Biodom on July 11, 2023, 04:21:02 PM

OT: If someone is interested in personal longevity "enhancement":

Nothing there yet, but there are two majors (Altos labs and Calico) and several more specialized companies worth noting:

https://longevity.technology/news/five-longevity-companies-to-watch-in-2023-and-altos/
https://www.economist.com/science-and-technology/a-3bn-bet-on-finding-the-fountain-of-youth/21807244
https://www.wsj.com/articles/longevity-clinics-aging-living-longer-2b98e773

Altos raised 3bil just to start, so it is, potentially, a future "monster", but they are still at the research phase.

Imho, the best shot at longevity treatment right now is, paradoxically or not, some anti-diabetics/weight loss medications: ozempic/wegovy (and similar, like mounjaro) and metformin. Among the companies above, there are some that could give you better diagnostics, but their benefits are less clear.

This is pertinent unless you don't care about personal longevity and work mostly on transferring your sats to the future generation(s).

A very interesting thought to me is that in order to live (almost) forever, your natural life span doesn't need to reach until the holey grail of longevity is found. You just have to live long enough until they come up with something that extends your life let's say 25 years. And within these 25 years they may find something that gives you another 30 ...and so on.

That means there might already be people on the planet today that will live (almost) indefinitely...

I don't think it works like that.. but hey.. call me a party poop - skeptic in regards to so many supposed increasing longevity desires (that are supposedly going to actually work).

Quote from: FinePoine0 on July 11, 2023, 11:59:44 PM

Quote from: Ants Campaigns on July 11, 2023, 03:36:39 PM

Only ~280 days until the next #Bitcoin    halving
HODL ON

Bitcoin Magazine

What to do with bitcoin halving if you don't have bitcoins.

Cry like a little baby.

Quote from: FinePoine0 on July 11, 2023, 11:59:44 PM

Buy bitcoins, calculate bitcoin halving days

That's another possibility. Start buying now. .whether lump sum or DCA or front loading your DCA... buying on dips may work too.. not sure how much dips we will get, but sure, any way to get some cornz.. and see what happens in the coming year or two or three.

And, if we realize that bitcoin is not merely a short term investment, we might consider that we will be holding our bitcoin at least a few cycles, which well might be 12 years or more.. even though surely some people are forced to have shorter timelines, so they will need to adjust their BTC accumulation, maintenance and/or liquidation strategies in terms of their own particular timeline.