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I am finding extreme difficulties in following your logic.Ukraine gained independence on 1991 if I am not mistaken on promises to destroy all nuclear armament which they did to honor the deal brokered exactly by Russia,Boris Yeltsin back then.Since then Ukraine is a free country and is free to join NATO or do whatever they like in their territory without asking permission from anyone be that a neighbor like Russia who demanded that they stay out of joining NATO.

Russia wagered a war to annex parts of Ukraine and this is starting a war,Ukraine was at peace,it is the aggressor in this case Russia who put them to war and I agree with Zelenksy,no one tells me what to do in my own home.

if that is your logic, then can Cuba join a military alliance with Russia?
Cuba is also an independent country. the map is the key and strategic location of Cuba. NATO will object.

Cuba is free to do whatever they like,joining a military alliance with Russia as long as they want it,NATO won't object as NATO is strong enough to not give a damn even if Russia,China,Iran and all Middle East become together as a military alliance,so no NATO will not object.That is the huge difference in mentality from a western person and some person who has been hearing the Russian imperial fantasies long enough and cannot distinguish the reality,they only know one reality,the one inflicted to them by their country propaganda.It is as easy as that,no country should invade an independent country and each country should have the road they think suit them best.

thats a very naive thought. Its like saying Taiwan is free. If Taiwan is free, US will need not to keep shouting for its independence because China will always interfere what Taiwan would do.
If Taiwan is Free, they would have put us a US military base there already.

as is with Cuba. US will not allow Russia/Chinese Military base there otherwise a very tiny missile can reach the US territory. before Cuba can even militarize itself, they'd be sanctioned a hundred times.

Cuba would never be sanctioned. Why not? There are too many wealthy elites who vacation there. They would never allow it.

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ah yes. despite hearing strange debilitating sound that causes the havana syndrome.