Quote from: Ale88 on Today at 01:14:33 AM

Quote from: MTNNET on May 14, 2023, 07:33:55 PM

People who really understands what investment is all about, took time to plan and scale their income weight, Period of plan and period of investment. Bitcoin investors know when and how to invest weather trading or mining there is an appropriate time for it. And as investor you're not expected to hit and run or even eat up your profit. You've to give it time to grow hip hop and accumulate more. That's why in most cases I trust bitcoin investment to any forex or others channels, in bitcoin one hardly loss it all especially if the value of units coins remain safely.

How do you know a good investors?
* they're futuristic
* they're planners
* they're financial manager
* they're risk managers
* they're projected

That's how to know a good investors of bitcoin who do not see challenges but the possibilities of making their future work.
Bitcoin is a good assets to invest on but it's also has it own risk which you must learn.

For me the concept is way simpler than what you're saying, mainly because there are two types of investors: active and passive, meaning that an active investor makes a lot of trades and is supposed to know a lot of news and rumors because timing is everything; then we have the passive investors, those who simply buy, accumulate, and patiently wait. I would say that very few people fall in the first category mainly because those who try to do trading oftentimes end up losing money, I prefer the second category, you just need to be patient (which is not easy) but you'll get your return.

I like that framing idea.. active versus passive, and even though we know that there are gradients within the categories, we can also attempt to recognize where we might be in terms of how active we are or how passive we might be.

I would argue that even within the category of passive, there are some folks who are completely passive in the sense that they may have lump sum bought into bitcoin, and they just sit on their investment (maybe look at it once a quarter-ish).. and then there are those who might make multiple lump sum investments.. and maybe they do a bit of DCA and a bit of attempting to buy on dips. They are more active than the one who ONLY made one lump sum investment, but they are no way even close to as active as someone who engages in trading or who includes selling in their BTC portfolio management strategies.

So then we can see on the other side of the more active traders, there are traders who will try to catch every swing in BTC price and who might even dabble in shitcoins as a means to try to build their BTC portfolio, and then there would be traders who are less active because they might either ONLY set sell orders for "very BIG" BTC price moves that might take years to play out or they might have a somewhat passive approach in the way that they set their BTC sales that is not attempting to figure out BTC price moves, but instead just having a system set up in which they sell small amounts of BTC at various price increments of the BTC price going up, and so the spreads of the increments may or may not be large, and also the spread between selling and buying back may or may not be large, as well.. the larger these kinds of increment spreads and spreads between sells and buys, then the less active those kinds of traders would be too.

By the way, I tend to fit in this latter group, even though for sure I suggest that newbies do not even attempt to do what I am doing and that they first build up their BTC portfolio by ONLY focusing on ways to buy BTC (and if they sell any BTC, they replace it within a reasonable short period of time), so they are focusing on accumulation based on various ways of buying BTC until they might reach a decently large BTC stack size, then they might consider (if they want) to include some selling techniques within their BTC portfolio management strategies.

So yes, you could still be an investor employing any of these kinds of tactics, and surely I would agree that the more active that a person is in terms of trading and fucking around with a variety of strategies to try to time markets, they may well not fit as much of a strict investor - especially when they might be emphasizing their own abilities to stack dollars rather than seeing value in making sure that their BTC stash is ongoingly maintained and growing (which would be emphasizing the stacking of sats).

Of course, since we live in a world that includes a lot of fiat systems and fiat emphasis, bitcoiners likely are going to have some kinds of dilemmas regarding how much to emphasize how much they are investing time, money and energies into building their fiat values versus building their BTC values.. and all of us are not going to come to the same conclusions regarding how and where to strike those kinds of balances.. and Jeff Booth talks quite a bit about the transition over to the bitcoin system being difficult for those people who are failing/refusing to recognize and appreciate bitcoin for the new system that it is and the new system that is going to continue to suck (and gravitate) value into it... and many of the longer term bitcoiners realize/appreciate that it remains a good idea to continue to have ourselves invested in bitcoin in a variety of ways financially, psychologically and how we spend our time, even if we might not completely detach ourselves from fiat systems that continue to be all around us - depending on how active we are in the world in terms of consuming goods and services and needing to transact in fiat to the extent to which the bitcoin circular economy is still in its very infancy stages in terms of how much any of us might be able to consume goods and services through bitcoin.