Quote from: Blitzboy on July 20, 2023, 09:13:25 PM

Quote from: JayJuanGee on July 20, 2023, 01:27:50 PM

Serious investors will see that what you say is true. We've all started this bitcoin path with our own plans, some of which are static and some of which aren't. Each plan leaves its own mark in the blockchain ledger. Bitcoin, at its core, goes beyond standard ways of investing. It's like a blank canvas on which we can each paint our own financial plans. No matter what method you use, a friendly tip is to remember that the end goal is to get more sats. Don't sell just because the market is unstable. Keeping your bitcoin is, in many ways, a moral act that shows you believe in a better way to handle money.

But hey, could we look into a mix of passive and active tactics, like holding for the long term and trading wisely? A way to deal with the volatility of the bitcoin market while still honoring the core concept of "hodling"?

As we deal with these problems, we start to doubt. It's normal, just like feeling angry about the financial system. But we're the first ones to do this and are on the verge of a financial change. Embrace this role with a longing for the old system and an idea for a future that is based on bitcoin.

You are not really saying anything wrong - yet there still remains preferences that each person has to figure out his/her own strategies, and of course, many of us have already concluded and presume bitcoin to be a good long term investment, and if there is agreement with that, then there should be consciousness that is developed from each person regarding what their personal goals are in terms of accumulating sats and how many they believe that they need for their own personal situation, including how fast they should be striving to accumulate such sats, and with which methods are going to be best to aim them at reaching their own personally tailored goals.

So I am not going to presume the goals are going to be the same for everyone, since we already know that a vast majority of people in the world have not actually taken actions to accumulate any bitcoin... so some of those people have heard of bitcoin, but they have not determined it to be important enough for them to actually take actions towards accumulating it, and even though many of us bitcoiners believe that they need to get the fuck off of zero, they have to come to their own conclusion(s) regarding whether they need to get off zero and how to go about it.. and perhaps many of them will end up investing into bitcoin at much higher prices than current prices because they have not spent enough time to figure out that it likely would be in their better interest to actually start stacking however much bitcoin that they are able to stack without over doing it.

Quote from: Smartvirus on July 20, 2023, 09:32:03 PM

Quote from: MTNNET on May 14, 2023, 07:33:55 PM

People who really understands what investment is all about, took time to plan and scale their income weight, Period of plan and period of investment. Bitcoin investors know when and how to invest whether trading or mining there is an appropriate time for it. And as investor you're not expected to hit and run or even eat up your profit. You've to give it time to grow hip hop and accumulate more. That's why in most cases I trust bitcoin investment to any forex or others channels, in bitcoin one hardly loss it all especially if the value of units coins remain safely.

Who says those who sell a portion or all of their BTC aren’t bitcoin faithfuls or good bitcoin investors. Perhaps they’ve got the plans to buy it back when it dips and would still be on profit, hodling when it starts rising.

Sure people can do whatever they like, even dumb shit.

I would not characterize anyone as a bitcoin faithful who does not maintain some bitcoin, so selling all their bitcoin does not seem like someone who actually understands bitcoin, even if bitcoin has historically had great peaks in does not seem like a good idea to sell large portions of anyone's bitcoin holdings.. even though surely selling some bitcoin as prices go up and perhaps even decent sizes of the bitcoin portfolio might be acceptable, but selling all of their bitcoin would cause me to conclude that they don't understand bitcoin enough in order to continue to hold some of their stash, even if it may well end up dropping 80% in value from a price in which they are holding it and that they could sell if they wanted, but they still choose not to sell all of it... and what portion should they hold onto in order to be considered a convicted bitcoiner would likely depend upon what are their individual circumstances.

Quote from: Smartvirus on July 20, 2023, 09:32:03 PM

Come in,
Bitcoin remains a p2p commodity on the blockchain network and the multitude that still uses it as such, using it like a currency which it is, they aren’t doing it wrong and we can’t say they aren’t good investors. We can’t be centered on just one aspect to a multidimensional bitcoin.

I get your point that people can do whatever they like when it comes to bitcoin, they can get in or they can get out or they can try to manipulate the bitcoin market. bitcoin is for everyone. Friends and enemies.

Quote from: Smartvirus on July 20, 2023, 09:32:03 PM

Those who wish to hodl should br encouraged,
Those who wants to spend it for a currency should do so,
Those who wants to trade it on the market can have their go at it for sure.

It’s just bitcoin being used as it should be.

Yes.. they can do what they like, but some of those things might not be very smart, especially if you might want to get to fuck you status.... but hey whatever, each person can do what they like, and you have made your point... but it does not mean that they even know what the fuck they are doing, and if we are focusing in this thread upon what we might believe is a "good bitcoin investor" then selling all of your BTC does not seem to make a good bitcoin investor, but hey do what you like.. if you want to sell all of your bitcoin, then hopefully you do not end up selling too many too soon and then becoming bitter... especially since bitcoin is actually a vehicle to one of the greatest (if not the greatest) peaceful wealth transfers, in history, and if you want to fuck around with trading and trying to buy back cheaper, that is upon you to take those kinds of chances.. You are free to do so, and king daddy gives no shits if you end up having to buy back 50% higher because you ended up having the wrong mindset and you ended up selling too many too soon because you thought that you were smarter than everyone else.. like a smart virus. Shocked