Quote from: Cruxleo on July 22, 2023, 04:26:23 PM

Quote from: muliyadi227 on July 22, 2023, 02:31:18 PM

Bitcoin is being invaded by institutions. Is this a sign that Bitcoin will be pumping hard or just a bull trap?

"Just a bull trap"... Putting bitcoin in a possible "pump and dump" situation is quite unfair, a suitable guess for altcoins. Bitcoin is bigger and better.

I think institutional adoptions of bitcoin is quite a welcoming one unless in paths of proposals for regulation and attempts of market manipulation.

These adoptions would add recognition, as well as value via increase in liquidity in Bitcoin markets. However, response to Bitcoin ETFs proposals are idiosyncratic being largely interesting for bitcoin investors as it profer possible gains on investment while being quite disturbing for true bitcoiners.

Your opinion is acceptable, but we need to stay keep aware to invest. And I think if we have a long investment plan in Bitcoin, I think it won't be a disturbance, the bull run in bitcoin is a must in 2024, but we need to stay calm and wait for the long investment.

Quote from: ImThour on July 22, 2023, 04:46:07 PM

I mean they are interested in Bitcoin since early 2017s, they say bad things in public and buy Bitcoin in private while keeping it secret. So there is no way you get to know that they have already bought what they always opposed. So once they are done buying, they start sharing news in the market that they are thinking to buy so that the price goes up and they can dump it on you. Institutions are here to make money, not build technology. Only individuals can build products.

I do really agree with your opinion of Institutions are making money, not build technology, because however, they need money to grow up their line of business, so they decided to make the decision to make money.

Quote from: lionheart78 on July 22, 2023, 05:22:23 PM

Institution adoption of Bitcoin will strengthen the Bitcoin foundation. This means Bitcoin is leaning forward to what the government considered legal because, with this centralized institution, the government will have the chance to tax its users.

We all know that institution will never set their attention and interest on anything if they don't find profit from it and it is no different from an individual who sees Bitcoin as a profit generating venture. I believe if the institution finds Bitcoin profitable, they will want to maintain it as long as possible so I do not think that institution just wanted to raid Bitcoin, they in for profit yes but I believe insitution will make sure that their venture is for long term.

So, do you think that the institution come to make money? and, do you think that these institutions will have a power to play the market?

Quote from: Churchillvv on July 22, 2023, 05:48:45 PM

they will seize the opportunity to control the institutions as an indirect control to Bitcoin causing this institutions to tax individuals who use there products more.
it's vis-versa Bitcoin gets more increase, individuals get high taxations.

Yeah, I really agree with your opinion that they will seize the opportunity to control the institutions as an indirect control to bitcoin, but how could it be ? are this situtations will be a way to control the market too for them?

Quote from: bittraffic on July 22, 2023, 06:25:41 PM

If they are up to manipulating the market, will they manipulate it to go higher than usual ATH every bull season or they will be suppressing the prices? These guys don't want others to win over them.

No doubt about it, I think it will be a disturbance for all of Bitcoin Investors, not only for the short-time investor, but also for the long-time investors in Bitcoin. So We need to make sure that We should be aware of this situtations, better if We need to be a long term plan investor but we need to be an early investor, before the instutions come massively to get in to Bitcoin ecosystem.

Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on July 22, 2023, 06:56:28 PM

This post is great, and you have pointed out a good question. And i think, it might be a bull trap, or maybe not. Because many big institutions even IMF has made many announcements in favor of Crypto. Which is definitely a bullish news. And all of the news that you have shared are bullish.

Thanks for appreciating this post @ZAINmalik75, I do agree with your opinion of will be there a bullish, but we need to worry if the Institution will be able to control or manipulating the market, it will be a terrible situations for us as a Bitcoin Investor, but if we invest bitcoin early before the instutions come massively get in to the bitcoin, we will be get a great position as an Investor.

Quote from: Blitzboy on July 22, 2023, 07:51:50 PM

The participation of established institutions like Deutsche Bank and NASDAQ lends credibility to the discussion. The market can be stabilized and made more predictable with such participation. It lets regular people get in on the action and brings much-needed funds into the system.

Could you describe the detail of how could the market will be stabilized and predictable? Aren't this situtation will be a bad news that the market could be manipulated or controlled by the institutions?

Quote from: usekevin on July 22, 2023, 07:59:23 PM

China government playing the hidden game in the crypto currency,if the china government had 46% in the company.So it mean they have huge potential in the decision making,they allow the people to have some investment in the cryptocurrency.Hong Kong is the key player for the Chinese government and the Chinese economy.When the bank provides exchange of fiat to crypto currency,this mean that the people of Hong Kong had the accessibility to crypto currency.

Yeah, I think that's why some people agree that the institutions could manipulate or controll the Bitcoin or even other Cryptocurrency (Coins or Tokens) especially for the China government, but we don't really know the fact or the real situation if it's a hidden game or not.

Quote from: Zanab247 on July 22, 2023, 08:05:03 PM

I guess, it is a bull trap which many BTC holders are aware of it, that is why they are still holding their BTC because the price is planning to move to another level to make more institution show interest on BTC. BTC has displayed so many positive results that is making many institution to have interest because they know that it will improve their institution in future. Very soon, those institution don't want to have interest on BTC based on what they heard about BTC that is making them to be scared to have interest on BTC, I think they will surely change their mind when the price of BTC hit higher before the end of this year.

I think the Institutions has no worry about the pump or dump of Bitcoin, I think they only want to make money from it, I mean they get involved in Bitcoin just to play the manipulation or control game, so they can make money from it by control or manipulate the market, even they said that they want to get into Bitcoin Ecosystem, I dont think so, they don't really want to develope or make a great grow to Bitcoin, they only want the profit. But it's only my opinion, I could be wrong. CMMIW.