Quote from: niothor on April 17, 2014, 06:08:13 AM

Quote from: hyunsookmom on April 17, 2014, 05:57:55 AM

Quote from: notsoshifty on April 17, 2014, 01:52:12 AM

Quote from: hyunsookmom on April 16, 2014, 03:04:53 PM

Actually probably no one tested it properly. Like one guy (notsoshifty) said its all new code and I expect everyone believed him. If it isn't you can pretty much blame him for misleading everyone. Or he is Qora?

Well, hyunsookmom, you're talking a lot of BS in this thread, but this message is about me so I'll point out some things.

Firstly off, I'm not Qora, although of course I can't prove that.

I didn't say "it's all new code", I said "Decompilation suggests it doesn't appear to be based on nxt code" because TheMightyX asked "Has anyone actually reviewed the code to make sure its not just the NXT source". I decompiled the Qora beta and compared it to Nxt, and they look completely different. I used words like 'suggests' and 'appears' because it's decompilation of obfuscated code after all.

Then you said "The Wallet is eMunie's beta testing wallet..." so i compared the Qora beta decompiled code with the latest eMunie decompiled code. Again, they don't look similar, so I said so.

As for "I expect everyone believed him" and "If it isn't you can pretty much blame him for misleading everyone", I also gave people sufficient information on how to check it for themselves: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=522102.msg6153672;topicseen#msg6153672

It looks like what you're doing is seeing that the UI is vaguely similar, and concluding that they're the same, and concluding that Qora is a scam.

It might be a scam. My investment was through escrow so I'm protected against Qora doing a runner now. What I'm not protected against is Qora releasing a client that basically works (you can transfer funds, you can create aliases, etc), but doesn't stand up to any form of serious scrutiny once it's launched. Like, it doesn't have sufficient protection against double spends. I put a post out about that, put nobody apart from Qora replied. Posting again here, in case anybody has input:

Quote from: notsoshifty on April 08, 2014, 12:46:48 AM

I've loaded the client and made a few test transactions and naming assignments. In those basic tests it all seems to work fine with only cosmetic issues.

My question (to beta testers, fellow investors and potential investors, and qora) is, how can we verify that the code implements functionality like:
- prevent double spends
- uses PoS to achieve consensus, and prevent 51% (90%? 99%?) attacks
- prevent transaction replays
- prevent transaction malleability
- handle fork-related scenarios correctly
- ensure no new funds are generated after equivalent of genesis block
etc?

This is especially important as we have no access to readable code, and it is not based on any existing cryptocurrency code.

Sorry but you did seem to give an all clear on the code as original and legit. No one is really blaming you and I admit that was a strong statement that wasn't really that serious, but I am suggesting people DID see your comments and assumed everything was all good for the coin. Ultimately more the fool them.

Whose fault is it that people paid money and lost it? Themselves of course but you should also take a bit of personal responsibility by accepting you influenced the conversation.

Sorry , but what lost money when this coin was supposed to have an escrow?

Escrow for many IPOs make people think it's legit. Whether they are stupid to is neither here nor there, people DID pay straight to the guy....a lot.

I have suggested also earlier why people tend to avoid Anon1 Escrow due to not knowing how to use private keys.

I think the whole thing about this IPO is people once they saw or 'thought' they saw a working beta with a completely new code and offering Escrow they thought it was a cast iron legit opportunity.

But yes they should of Escrowed but the fact is 80btc did get sent direct. I expect many have learned a lesson from this. Bit I do hope the Escrow thing gets explained a bit more in laymans terms so not to deter any noobs from using it. Bear in mind Escrow was only available near the end of the IPO.