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Quote from: coolcoinz on August 03, 2023, 07:42:50 PM

Quote from: be.open on August 03, 2023, 01:20:50 AM

Bandera, is a Nazi, and in honor of him, thousands of marches on Khreshchatyk were held and fifty streets were named

I didn't know he was still alive. Wink

Yes he was a nationalist and responsible for many murders, especially on Poles, but last time I checked nations did not invade one another because there were streets named after someone.
Some time ago there were news about a Stalin monument installed in one of Russian cities and Rosatom wanted to put a bust of Beria on display, yet nobody dropped bombs on you over that.

You take one argument out of context, ignoring all the others, and then try to twist it as if it were a thing of the past. Looks pretty ridiculous, I had a better opinion of your ability to debate.

Are you trying to blame me for your own mistakes? It's not like I used present tense when talking about someone who died decades ago.
It's hard to convey sarcasm through written text, but I did my best by adding the wink. No sense of humor in Russia?

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The surge of neo-Nazism in Ukraine is a phenomenon of the recent history of the 21st century. Moskovsky Prospekt in Kyiv was renamed Bandera Avenue in 2016, not 70 years ago.

I guess that's because there was no independent Ukraine 70 years ago. Also, it's important to mention that 70 years ago Bandera was still alive. Don't they teach math in Russia?

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Vatutin Avenue in Kyiv became Shukhevych Avenue in 2017, not in Stalin's time. Ukraine needed national heroes, and in its history it did not find anyone better for this role than the most notorious Nazis. Wrong choice, now Ukraine will have to pay for it. It is to pay, not to answer - because no one will ask. Russia, only for decency, demonstrates its readiness for negotiations, while putting forward conditions that are obviously unacceptable for Ukraine as not being discussed.

Hard for a country that was a part of the Soviet Union to have its own heroes. Soviet heroes could be also Ukrainian heroes, if they were heroes at all in the general sense, because communist butchers like Kalinin, who have cities named after them, aren't the best national heroes, yet nobody invades Russia over that.

Nice Russians want to negotiate, but it's the Ukrainians that are making it hard. They bombed their cities, tried to murder their president, tortured and murdered prisoners of war, but now they're extending a handshake. Would you shake the hand of someone who killed your parents or siblings? I wouldn't.