Quote from: be.open on Today at 04:37:14 AM

You take one argument out of context, ignoring all the others, and then try to twist it as if it were a thing of the past. Looks pretty ridiculous, I had a better opinion of your ability to debate. The surge of neo-Nazism in Ukraine is a phenomenon of the recent history of the 21st century. Moskovsky Prospekt in Kyiv was renamed Bandera Avenue in 2016, not 70 years ago. Vatutin Avenue in Kyiv became Shukhevych Avenue in 2017, not in Stalin's time. Ukraine needed national heroes, and in its history it did not find anyone better for this role than the most notorious Nazis. Wrong choice, now Ukraine will have to pay for it. It is to pay, not to answer - because no one will ask. Russia, only for decency, demonstrates its readiness for negotiations, while putting forward conditions that are obviously unacceptable for Ukraine as not being discussed.

"Israel doesn't negotiate with terrorists," so Russia launched its special operation knowing that it would have to kill them all. Russia have zero tolerance for Nazism since World War II. Would you like to discuss the philosophy behind the Peace Formula at the Saudi Arabia Summit? Grin

The main thing 'neo-' about the modern Ukrainian Nazi seems to be their warmness toward 'Jews'. I have, however, run across the idea many times that indeed the 'old' Nazis were relatively warm to toward the Zionists, and especially as Nazism was building up in the 1930's. In both cases it could be attributed to a 'don't bite the hand that feeds you' principle economically speaking and thus the Nazi's may not particularly be semitophiles as much as that they just know where their bread is buttered. That is, right out of the pockets of the likes of Kolomoiski, Nuland/Nudelman, etc.

Looking at things from the flip-side, it also can be said that the Israelies are smart (like me) and it was reasonably obvious to them how the proxy war would end up. This lead to policies which would not significantly antagonize or harm Russia all throughout this 'SMO', and beyond as the brush fire continues to flare up. The freedom to remain neutral is limited to Israel where the various banana-republics (Germany, France, etc) are expected to follow Zenenski...right over the cliff to their doom. This observation is yet another in-your-face illustration of who sits above who in the global power structure. With every 'fuck you' that Israel issues to so-called West, the U.S. et-al respond with more 'please sir, can I have another?' And they continue to send Israel even more money for 'security.', pass more laws against their citizens insulting 'the Jews', etc.