Quote from: Pmalek on Today at 07:08:39 AM

Quote from: m2017 on August 12, 2023, 03:28:20 PM

And in the future, this "improvement" of theirs will automatically send the contents of users wallets to wherever they want in ledger?

Despite their recent history, they can still turn things around and advertise this upcoming Recover feature as something extraordinary and worth using for newbies. We will see how that goes. Going down the road that you proposed is sure death to Ledger and I don't think they are that stupid.

The path that the ledger has chosen with all these recovery functions and storage of private keys (parts) with third-party companies, automatic ledger live app, release of devices that have not been fully tested and have physical flaws and defects, with leaks of their customers' data (still, they don't were able to prevent this) without any compensation can hardly be called reasonable. This company has too many actions that can only be called stupid (or maybe just negligence, greed and irresponsibility?).

Quote from: Volgastallion on August 12, 2023, 07:19:19 PM

The question to all of your is, do you think that ledgers can be modified by them so they can acces and steal al your coins?

Fake Ledger devices do exist, and we even had cases where individuals whose data got leaked had such devices shipped to them to their home addresses. But everything about those HWs was fake. If you opened them up, they had different hardware components compared to the examples Ledger has on its website. They also instructed the users to download and install fake Ledger Live software and not the official versions. Fake firmware was also part of the game.

- A genuine Ledger HW looks as shown on the pictures above.
- Only a genuine Ledger HW works and can connect to the official Ledger Live software.
- Only a genuine Ledger HW can connect to Ledger servers and install official apps or firmware from the LL App Manager.

If Betnomi modified their Ledger devices, you should notice that the things I mentioned above won't work.
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And I also dreamed of winning one of these devices in the raffle of betnomi

As a memento. After their exit scam, this little thing became really memorable. For their former clients.

In theory, it is possible that the HW devices sent by the betnomi may be modified. But in practice, they would hardly bother (although who knows). I think that the betnomi has already made good money with their exit scam that they don’t need to take extra actions with devices, and this would require bothering with modification (mind, of each hardware wallet). As far as I understand, there were not so many such devices (for raffles), which means that it was not so much possible to earn in such a fraudulent way (compared to an exit scam gambling platform). That is, the ratio of time / resource costs with possible profitability is incommensurable.