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Quote from: kotajikikox on August 30, 2023, 02:08:33 AM

Quote from: KiaKia on May 25, 2023, 12:48:32 PM

Changing of terms and conditions without notifying the users or gamblers is normal with online gambling websites? Then when you did something wrong or about to withdraw your money they will tell you that you don't read their terms and conditions, and you start arguing with them until you decide to read the ToS again and you find out that it's different.

this will only shows how tricky those site is , it is normal to change TOS without notifying player , but the tricky part here is when they just changed that said terms after someone wins big and need to withdraw.
that makes them an obvious scammer/cheater.

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Some gambling websites consist of wicked owners that willingly plan to defraud their users using the ToS against them, or is this normal? Have such happened to anyone on this forum before?

don't worry mate , eventually ? this will turns against them because the players itself will learn and let the world knows about theit attitude and surely , will let their players leave them and also no new visitors may enters.

Well, the truth is I don't know why it says that casinos can change their Tos and without notifying, I'm not saying anything that the Tos can be changed in the bonuses, that one bonus is different from another, but, I think that the Tos in a site like A casino that is like its rules, its laws, is like changing the constitution of a country without consulting the Ubelo in order to do it, what we commonly call a dictatorship, which is the case in some countries, but even a casino is not willing to do things like that Because as you say, when they do it that way, it is so that the player has no chance of being victorious under any scheme, and this is not the idea either, the casino already has its house advantage, and a player wins when he wins. It is because he was lucky, he persevered and won, and that must be recognized and they must do everything necessary so that he can withdraw his money, because once a player loses, I have not seen a single casino that says that it was their mistake and that they will return the deinor to their euna, that does not happen anywhere.

So with respect to the other thing you are talking about, it is very true, if there is a casino that defrauds its players, it is very easy for that casino to lose, no matter the great heavy machinery in fucking marketing, because if they did things wrong, a single player is capable of starting a revolt so that everyone goes against the casino, and even more so when they have contusive evidence, that is something that is very feasible, firstly because players know each other, there are communities, there are other forums, with an experience, they know it can tarnish all the effort that a casino has made or have a good reputation, it is something that takes a lot to build but that can be damaged by the slightest act of dishonesty, that is why as good players we must be alert before any accusation, when it is obviously well Answer if it is an accusation of fraud, to the comments of the DT members, because fraud is something unforgivable, it is not judged that any site abuses its power to be able to take money from the players, and something that is not justified.

Changing the TOS without notice? Thats not sneaky, thats wrong. Think about it : An app or software that modified its terms of service without alerting users would cause a disturbance. Now I understand the dictatorship comparison. It's good but harsh. Gambling works because individuals trust each other. Players think the regulations won't change to steal their hard-earned money. The home usually has an edge, but come on. A player beats the odds because they're good or lucky. The end. Why not celebrate their win?

Since forums, social media, and communities are interrelated, one deception can damage a casino's reputation. You explained this clearly. Dishonesty hurts every firm, especially in today's hyperconnected society. As players, its not only about money, but the rules. Staying informed, speaking up against injustice, and most importantly, working together are essential. Remember that our collective power can halt any evil. If they try, we'll inform them. The end.