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What happened?

Nazis got unexpected help from USA and UK?

Our Ukrainian friend prefers not to remember that in April 2022, negotiations between Ukraine and Russia were already at the final stage, until Boris Johnson flew from London to Kiev on an unannounced urgent visit and ordered Zelensky to curtail negotiations and fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian.

Nope, I do recall the UK supporting Ukraine in whatever Ukraine would decide. The UK cannot force Ukraine into a war simply because there is not leverage to do so even in the case that this would be in UKs interest.

Ukraine is not fighting anything like a "desperate war to the last Ukrainian", they are fighting a war that is clearly possible to win to the point in which Ruzzia will think twice before trying another land-grabbing in a few years. Next time, whoever is in power will know what is the cost of attacking the neighbour and very particularly, how trustable are their sources of information when they told the old Putler dude that Ukraine would not resist and that Europe would not respond (that was an epic blunder).

Of course it's not a "desperate war to the last Ukrainian." They're volunteering for the benefit of the necessity of depopulation, because out of love they know that the whole world is suffering from over-population. Lol.

I don't think that Biden will be able to force a draft on Americans. And the Nato countries don't like the idea at all. This means that outside of a few strays that go to fight for Ukraine, all Russia has to do is keep on killing Ukraine soldiers. The problem for Russia is, when all the Ukrainians are dead, there won't be anybody left to surrender.

Consider Dresden in Germany in WW2. They thought they were safe, being rather far from Berlin, and near the Czechoslovakian border. But they got bombed right off the map, and now Czechoslovakia is even gone.

Cool

1. Ukrainians fight for a variety of reasons. These include patriotism, money, their land, their families, their freedom and many other as good or as bad.
2. US is unlikely to send soldiers to Ukraine but certainly would not ever send conscripts. You are spreading fake information and trying to scare people - I guess some of them are stupid enough to believe such a thing.
3. Considering Germany after WW II is precisely why Ruzzia needs to be stopped here and now, to avoid them spreading their influence over half of Europe. Cold war was extremely costly, only a fool would want to repeat it. The cheap and smart alternative is to drive Ruzzia back to their borders while it demilitarises and destroys its economy itself in the way so that the do not come back for more.

And, again providing biased information. Czechoslovakia is not "gone" it is two states Czechia and Slovakia, which by the way have very good industrial bases, an educated population and growing economies in the context of the European Union. You know why? Because they are free from Ruzzia stealing from them and governing from Moscow - does this ring a bell to you???