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Clearly it didn't take long for BitcoinGirl.Club to restore rationale and remove the positive feedback, because I didn't see it happen

He has positive default trusted you, not given you positive trust feedback which is why you cannot see it. (And it's still there)

Here it is: https://bpip.org/TrustLog?&trusted=bencodie&chtype=All

Oh, right. I see. I don't see what the difference between nutildah distrusting me and BCG trusting me is then. To me it just seems like nutildah doesn't see eye to eye with my views and thus my judgement, while BCG sees eye to eye with my views and thus my judgement. That's my best guess...and to be honest, if I put myself in BCG's shoes and another member was randomly distrusted due to defending his reputation, highlighting facts about a scam, calling out power-trippers, gambling fiends, fake victims, etc. I probably wouldn't feel a need to balance any scales or trust them any more than another member, but I would definitely feel more obliged to support them if someone distrusted them for no reason if their judgement is ultimately right in my eyes. That's just me though

tl;dr: nutildah ~~probably~~ most likely distrust you because you leave incorrect feedback and have an impaired judgement instead of simply disagreeing with you.

I won't pretend I know what's exactly on nutildah's mind, but I'm pretty much sure you're wrong about why he distrusted you; that he simply doesn't see eye to eye with your view. I think it's more to what you left on JG's trust feedback and said here on this thread, as evidenced on #2805, #2807 [and yes, I read every part of that essay], perhaps can also be glimpsed on #2809.

If I may divulge more, if you don't trust JG, as stated on #2805, then what you should do it put a tilde on JG's name on your trust list, or perhaps simply ignore him, instead of writing a negative feedback. When you leave a negative feedback based on what arguably a retaliation,

Quote from: LoyceV on October 10, 2019, 03:37:17 PM

Do's and Don'ts

Don't leave positive feedback for your own alt account (use neutral comments for this).
Don't leave negative feedback when someone violates the forum rules. Instead, use Report to moderator for rule violations.
Do leave mutual neutral feedback if you want to show which alt account(s) belong to you.
Don't leave (negative) feedback based on retaliation.
Don't leave (positive) feedback just because someone left it to you.

or that you've been placing incorrect feedback numerous times, or as stated on #2807, "however I am someone who looks at things as they are, excluding the politics and general consensus, and making my own judgements", others are allowed to consider a possibility that you didn't know how trust feedback intended to work, thus allows people to at the very least questions your ability to leave an accurate feedback.

Quote from: LoyceV on October 10, 2019, 03:37:17 PM

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Trust list
You should add users who left accurate feedback and have good Trust lists to your Trust list, and you should exclude users who leave inaccurate feedback.[...]

I believe, this is also what Loyce implies when he said,

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 10:20:43 AM

That's okay. It's how the Trust system is designed. But it will also mean your feedback won't show up by default.
So it's really up to you: do you want your feedback to mean something to the majority of users, or do you want to use your own interpretation of the Trust system?

He politely asked you if you would like to get yourself acquainted with the trust system of the forum, or you'd like to perceive the trust system the way you want it, which, by the way, you're completely allowed to, as the forum are leaning toward decentralization, there's no strict and absolute mainframe established by one person. But, again, it'll imply that you doesn't know how the trust system intended to work, and though you're fully entitled that opinion, others are also entitled to perceive that you might leave inaccurate feedback later in the future because of that perspective you have. Thus, excluding you from the decentalized system of Default Trust, thus tilde.

I appreciate all of the effort that you put into your post. I won't address it all as for the most part, as a lot of it can be left at where it is. I will say, that I'll have to agree to disagree with nutildah believing I have impaired judgement. I think that in comparison to others, my judgement is quite the opposite of impaired - however, maybe my use of the trust system and the way that I think that it could be used (which I believe, would not only be an appropriate way to use it but also effective for the betterment of the forum) is different to that of the norm. Whether or not that warrants my opinion to mean nothing is another subject, to which I and I'm sure everyone else can not be bothered discussing.

I think that time will tell as I continue to use the system as I see it is fit to use.

In relation to what you said about the feedback on JollyGood, the feedback wasn't primarily retaliatory. It would have been left whether or not he had left one on my profile or not, after the thought given over the few days following the reputation thread left by Shirshar or whatever his name is. The reason is that I believe blatant lying is untrustworthy, and poses trade risk (already detailed). At the minimum, someone who has these traits and has displayed them on multiple occasions should not have the power that he has. It can very easily be abused, and become destructive for the forum. However, that's my opinion. I've left my feedback, I will leave it as is and if someone else displays the same characteristics, my rationale will be the same. Liar = negative feedback, referenced with proof of such. Someone who fiddles with the truth to hurt others shouldn't be trusted IMO but if some users of the forum defend this kind of behavior and sees that as impaired judgement, so be it.

I apologise that you had to spend so much time on that post and credits to you for putting the effort in. While I am stubborn with negotiating my logic and reason, I am sure that post will help others to use the trust system as you and others see fit.

As for me, time will tell if my judgement will have a positive impact on the forum