Quote from: efialtis on Today at 08:27:57 AM

Not that it changes anything but... I think some people around here aren`t being 100% honest - guys, with all the shit that Betnomi (aka Sorsis) have/has been pulling, how can you state it was totally "normal" to keep supporting them? Sorry, the red flags have been right there, for a long time. I am not saying that any bitcointalk user is responsible for Betnomi`s shit but let`s just not pretend... Fact is, as long as there was money to be squeezed, people were definitely ready to look past the issues. And this is a general phenomenon on bitcointalk, actually.

Quote from: efialtis on August 01, 2023, 03:04:17 PM

Quote from: Csmiami on July 30, 2023, 11:50:10 PM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on July 30, 2023, 10:52:28 PM

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I mean, I did put a flag up because some stuff I had seen and experienced regarding payments; but since the amount (not the %) was small, people did sort of ignore it. Besides that, the stuff that happened with gosu/efialtis is public; and we did list them in the blacklist for some of those reasons aswell. And some people may also remember that one time a passport was posted here in the forum to mock a user trying to pass KYC under the premise that "it was not his real passport"...

I will go agree that not everything about the site was bad; but all in all, and after some experience I've gained on the industry ever since, I'd be confident to say that most of that was something that should be considered standard, and not something out of the ordinary.

And well, of course everything looks different in hindsight; but would have there really been a point in coming to the forum every day to talk about what people had been ignoring? would it have changed a thing? guess we'll never know

Thank you - let`s also not forget:

- the generally unprofessional attitude
- the constant "change of plans" with regard to betnomi
- the ICO
- the bragging about carding skills, aka literally scamming people (crime)
- and the list could go on and on

There is a reason why we stopped promoting them a long time ago, including blacklisting. I was more than "understanding" and actually gave them the benefit of the doubt, more than once, but they kept proving how right I was... I had them negatively tagged as well and if I remember correctly, some people on here actually put me on "distrust" because I spoke out against them. Last but not least, in recent months, I actually posted more than once in their thread that I do not see a single reason why anyone in his right mind would keep depositing funds on that site and that people should refrain from doing so.

Tbh, I do not think there is anything else we could have done in order to protect the people of this forum as well as visitors of our website.

That response of mine does not even include all of the withdrawal issues/delays users have had ever since - and it doesn`t include personal (horrible) experience with Sorsis either.

Edit: It should also be explicitly mentioned that I don't want to present myself as an angel or something... Why have I not participated in any Betnomi related games/tournaments/contests/challenges for a very long time, even if I was invited by other users? The answer is above...

Think if this place got rid of promotions, and those signatures that everyone has, this wouldn't happen. I doubt this forum would be able to function without it now though. Which suggests a real problem.