Quote from: botolo86 on April 19, 2014, 02:42:47 AM

Quote from: Sage on April 18, 2014, 06:08:36 PM

Another government shill spouting mis-information. How do you shills sleep at night?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grace_Commission

"With two thirds of everyones personal income taxes wasted or not collected, 100 percent of what is collected is absorbed solely by interest on the federal debt and by federal government contributions to transfer payments. In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone before one nickel is spent on the services [that] taxpayers expect from their government."

Do you really think anything has changed?

Not one red cent of the income tax goes to benefit any American whatsoever. It goes back into the banksters pockets. All by design.

...Where it is used to foment wars for profit...

That's what central banks do... enslave nations with debt through fomenting, then funding wars. That's what you're supporting when you send in that check to the private criminal organization known as the Federal Reserve & their collection agency the IRS.

Interesting, you are referring to the results of a commission that presented its report more than thirty years ago. It's a little bit old evidence.

Just to clarify how taxes work, here is some additional info for you, released by the National Priorities Project, an American non-governmental organization founded in 1983. NPPs mission is to make federal budgets transparent and accessible so that citizens can engage in overseeing and influencing how their tax dollars are spent.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Priorities_Project

According to the report total federal tax revenues in fiscal year 2014 are projected to be $3 trillion. These revenues come from three major sources: income taxes paid by individuals, accounting for 46 percent of all tax revenues; payroll taxes paid jointly by workers and employers, accounting for 34 percent; and corporate income taxes paid by businesses, making up 11 percent.

Source: http://nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/revenues/

In fiscal year 2014, the federal government will spend around $3.8 trillion. [...] The U.S. Treasury divides all spending into three groups: mandatory spending and discretionary spending and interest on debt. Interest on debt, which is much smaller than the other two categories, is the interest the government pays on its accumulated debt, minus interest income received by the government for assets it owns.

This is where the spending will go:

Source: http://nationalpriorities.org/budget-basics/federal-budget-101/spending/alt/?utm_expid=84498401-5.1T2lB6d5SEmMcoN-3M_tZA.1&utm_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fnationalpriorities.org%2Fanalysis%2F

If you want, you can also see how taxes were used in previous years, by accessing the public budget that you can find on the pages of the same website.

In any case, I am not going to participate in this debate anymore, OP in his last post showed how little respect he has for the freedom to express your own thoughts. I was trying to create a constructive debate together with other users here but reading about "the stupidity of people", "morons", "food source" simply demonstrate how little you guys are interested in a fair exchange of ideas and opinions.

What botolo86, don't feel respected? (tear tear) Not use to "citizens" not bowing to your every word?

God forbid they question your propaganda?

God forbid they don't cower at your fear & intimidation tactics!

God forbid they call out you & your shilling for what it is!

Yep the Grace commission was 30 years old. Since then debt created by the illegal & fraudulent Federal Reserve has only exploded.

So too has the interest payment! Reaching the dangerous tipping point of more then 100% GDP.

If you don't understand the significance of that botolo86, then perhaps you should ask your masters. Or maybe actually do your own thinking & research outside of your masters approved boundaries.

It's laughable that you would use the Presidents proposed total spending to justify the the income tax.

KNOWING that not ONE RED CENT OF THE INCOME TAX goes to ANY of that "proposed" spending other then interest on the debt to the frauds at the Federal Reserve.

There are actually LEGAL & CONSTITUTIONAL ways the federal government can fund itself. The income tax is NOT one of them!

How do you shills sleep at night? Knowing the pain & suffering your organization has caused in the world? Do they brainwash you so much that you don't use an ounce of intellect or reason any longer?

...Or do they just buy you off, offering so much wealth ethics be damned?

You're either willfully ignorant or you've sold your soul botolo86. In either case shills like you deserve no respect or attention.