Quote from: GazetaBitcoin on Today at 05:34:00 PM

zasad finished the first translation of our campaign thread, for Russian local board.

Yes, it's nice to see and I've asked him to announce it here, so I'm sure he'll also say a few words.

Unfortunately, instead of evaluating how posting quality could get improved, a few (obviously butthurt) shitposters and their friends appeared in the translated topic and didn't spare with unconstructive criticism. Roll Eyes

Also, to give zasad@ an appropriate answer to counter these unhelpful posts, I would like to address all points brought up there (legitimate ones and not legitimate ones):

satscraper alleged that:

Well, if he had read a bit further, he would know what's meant with "avoid unnecessary Denglish" / "Romglish" etc.:

Quote from: 1miau on August 16, 2022, 01:05:36 AM

Quote from: The Pharmacist on August 15, 2022, 03:24:16 AM

I'm glad you defined "Denglisch", because I had no idea what that is, and the link to the wiki page is all in German (which I can't read).

Oh, sorry. I've missed to remove the German link, when it was copied from our local board. Here it is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denglisch
"Denglish" is, when people are too lazy to translate properly and are using English words instead, even when there's a known German translation for.

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Denglisch is a term describing the increased use of anglicisms and pseudo-anglicisms in the German language. It is a portmanteau of the German words Deutsch (German) and Englisch. The term is first recorded from 1965.

Same for "Romglish" but native language is Romanian.

So, avoiding unnecessary Denglish is only valid for words, when there's a known and common translation in our native language. Even in German, I wouldn't call words "Shitcoin", "Fork" (if a Blockchain split like BCH or BSV is meant) or similar Blockchain-specific words (if there's no common translation available).
Maybe it's a bit different for Russian and of course, advocating to select Russian words instead of (avoidable English ones) might appear in a bad light since Putler invaded Ukraine.
But regarding this, keep one thing in mind: It's far better to go after Putler than not to apply the Russian language properly. Ukrainians die from Putin's unnecessary war every day but no people die from applying the Russian language correctly...
For our German laguage, I can only tell that it's just common sense to think a bit, if there's a common translation available and APPLY THE TRANSLATION.

Ratimov alleged that:

While I believe, important parts can be lost in translation, I only want to address outright false statements here:

It's wrong that our campaign didn't achieve anything positive. Obviously, Ratimov hasn't read anything in our original topic. Because our topic has 100% support in our Romanian section and PrivacyG's very positive reception. In our German section, we have positive examples like CoinEraser and it's a fact that posts have gotten better. Less pyramid quotes, less spam, less unnecessary Denglish (also, because I'm deleting this in my topics), more interesting giveaways, especially from Turbartuluk (GazetaBitcoin can confirm it) and that's only what our campaign achieved so far. It's still a project to keep expanding and as we can see now, our topic was brought to the Russian section as well.

About Ratimov's crazy accusation that there's "nothing useful in that topic" and "that he didn't see any practical advice", it's an outright lie. Our whole topic is giving important advice how to improve posting quality. Because common mistakes like pyramid quotes are still an issue. People are lazy and we need to remind them about it again and again. If that's not enough, repeated offenders need to be excluded from any additional Merits (and those who show good posting quality should be rewarded, because rewarding good posts is how MERIT is intended to work), offenders should get their shitposts deleted or, like from actmyname, get a neutral trust. My whole topic consists of common advice what to to better and the past has shown, that these problems, which are brought up in my topic, are far from being solved. Our topic is one approach of many to improve Bitcointalk.

After all, a reply like from Ratimov is suggesting a very dangerous viewpoint: that we can't do anything about posting quality at all, that shitposting is getting normailzed, that all effort to increase posting quality is wasted time (it's not true at all) and even that advocating for a better posting quality would be "spam". Roll Eyes

LOL...

At this point, I just hope that Google Translate made massive errors because what Ratimov alleged here is insanely wrong.

The most stupid take is coming from shitpost apologist light_warrior:

At this point, I don't need to add much more, he's just what we've seen in the German section as well: a pitiful shitpost apologist, who's extremely butthurt that zasad@ dared to encourage a better posting quality. Cheesy

Because we all know what shitposters and their friends don't like: being exposed.
Let's see if he's courageous enough to reply here and explain his pro-shitposting bullshit.
We will promise to give shitposters and their friends a hard time.

But of course, it's important to mention that there were also constructive posts like from Etranger or witcher_sense.

I've rewarded these comments with Merit.