Quote from: light_warrior on Today at 01:24:09 PM

Quote from: 1miau on September 27, 2023, 09:03:43 PM

At this point, I don't need to add much more, he's just what we've seen in the German section as well: a pitiful shitpost apologist, who's extremely butthurt that zasad@ dared to encourage a better posting quality. Cheesy

Because we all know what shitposters and their friends don't like: being exposed.
Let's see if he's courageous enough to reply here and explain his pro-shitposting bullshit.

Courage? Ha ha. It doesn't take courage to respond to your bullshit post.

Looks like I have confused "courage" with "stupidity" for you case.
Thanks for coming here and showing everyone that I've been right about your shitpost against our campaign.

Quote from: light_warrior on Today at 01:24:09 PM

If you can't take criticism well, you need to work on yourself.

You haven't provided a single legitimate, constructive criticism. Only thing you have provided is a low-level shitpost for the sake of providing a shitpost.

Quote from: light_warrior on Today at 01:24:09 PM

Me? Offensively? Why should I be offended? It's funny. Let your zasad write what he wants, it doesn't make me cold or hot.

I don't know why you got offended. Obviously you gut because you left a butthurt reply in zasad@'s translation.

Quote from: light_warrior on Today at 01:24:09 PM

Yes, I appeared on the forum much later than you, but, nevertheless, I have done several times more useful for the forum than you.

Bold claim, dude, bold claim! You've obviously not bothered to look at my post history before writing such bullshit, which tells a lot about you.
Don't get sick by all of your over self-confidence because it might hurt you badly.

Quote from: light_warrior on Today at 01:24:09 PM

Take a walk through the threads that deal with plagiarism reports, with AI shitposters, with ban evaders and you'll see my usefulness.

LOL, your plagiarism reports, where you add all the time the same, unnecessary fluff?

Quote from: light_warrior on Today at 12:03:46 PM

Plagiarism.
User who plagiarizes

Quote from: light_warrior on September 26, 2023, 05:34:45 PM

Plagiarism.
User who plagiarizes

Quote from: light_warrior on September 25, 2023, 05:24:55 PM

Plagiarism.
User who plagiarizes

No shit, sherlock! Or does someone expect that plagiarizers are selling overprized flowers?

What's the intention to add this unnecessary bullshit fluff in every of your reports?
To have more characters that your shitposts are eligible to receive a reward? Cheesy

Quote from: light_warrior on September 25, 2023, 05:24:55 PM

I'm not even talking about Ratimov at all. He has done 1000 times more useful than you.

Bold claim once again and, es expected zero proof.
Gonna report him for plagiarism as well with your stupid posts?

Quote from: light_warrior on September 25, 2023, 05:24:55 PM

So my advice to you, learn to take criticism normally first, and then communicate with people.

No need to give me any advice, especially when you are providing exactly zero valid criticism. Because after your childish shitpost you just looked like a washed clown. Cheesy

Quote from: light_warrior on September 25, 2023, 05:24:55 PM

Quote from: 1miau on September 27, 2023, 09:03:43 PM

We will promise to give shitposters and their friends a hard time.

Is that a threat?

Depends on if you are are shitposter / their friend or not. If you aren't a shitposter and as well not their friend, you don't have to fear anything.

Quote from: light_warrior on September 25, 2023, 05:24:55 PM

If you're such fighters against shitty posts in localized sections, why aren't you fighting back? Why don't you send reports to the moderators on such shitty posts?

I can cite many more posts like this from our newbies.

Or is your fight only in words? Where are your actions? Why doesn't your zasad send reports on these posts? And there are a huge number of such posts in the Russian section.

Maybe you've missed to notice it: I'm not active in the Russian local board...

Quote from: light_warrior on September 25, 2023, 05:24:55 PM

Further communication with you is useless.

I'd rather go find a plagiarizer or an AI shitposter. That would be more useful.

What you are doing might be a, well, let's call it noble effort but I believe the issue you don't understand boils down to:

"Give a man a fish and he's fed for a day. Teach a man how to fish and he will be fed for a lifetime"

I'm more in favor to teach people how to learn fishing. Wink

Quote from: Ratimov on Today at 02:19:12 PM

Quote from: 1miau on September 27, 2023, 09:03:43 PM

After all, a reply like from Ratimov is suggesting a very dangerous viewpoint: that we can't do anything about posting quality at all, that shitposting is getting normailzed, that all effort to increase posting quality is wasted time (it's not true at all) and even that advocating for a better posting quality would be "spam". Roll Eyes

This is not a dangerous point of view, but a reflection of the reality that I see on the forum. What has changed on the forum in 4 years?

The viewpoint, that we can't do anything about posting quality at all, that shitposting is getting normailzed, that all effort to increase posting quality is wasted time and that such campaigns, like we did, are getting belittled, IS a dangerous point of view because it's paving the way to a Bitcointalk, where shitposting is something "normal".
- More and more valuable members will leave the forum because no one wants to wade through spam
- More and more services will quit advertising on Bitcointalk
- Bitcoin will become even more menaningless, Back then I've discovered Bitcointalk due to well-written technical posts.

Quote from: Ratimov on Today at 02:19:12 PM

- Is there any spam left? Yes, he stayed.
- Is there any plagiarism left? Yes, he stayed.
- Are there any unprofessional translations using an automatic translator? Yes, he stayed.
- Are there any one-line shitposters left? Yes, they remain.

That's true but our campaign never claimed to remove ALL of spam, plagiarism, shitposting etc.

Quote from: Ratimov on Today at 02:19:12 PM

What has been added over the past few years?

- A lot of political spam, insults and death wishes, as well as wishes to quickly to be in war.
- AI shitposting.

D'accord, BADecker can get banned right away, I don't mind.

Quote from: Ratimov on Today at 02:19:12 PM

You are trying to fight the effect, but you need to fight the cause, but you are unlikely to succeed, because the forum is very loyal, here even plagiarism is not always banned, not to mention hatred on political grounds. Libertarianism and democracy greatly reduce censorship, while at the same time increasing various types of shitposting. Censorship reduces spam, but infringes on freedom of speech. Where to find this golden mean?

Our campaign is just creating awareness, what's important to have a look at for a better posting quality.
And as a Merit source, we have some leverage: reward good posts by giving out Merit. We are not saying our campaign will solve all problems but it's a step into the right direction.
But we need more people pushing for this.
And at that point your "we can't do anything anyways" attitude is not helpful. Cry

Quote from: Ratimov on Today at 02:19:12 PM

For you these are crazy accusations, but for me this is an objective reality.

It's not an "objective reality", as explained above. The campaign already achieved a positive outcome.

Quote from: Ratimov on Today at 02:19:12 PM

It's like trying to wipe down a bench during a rainstorm. It seems like you are trying to do something, but this will not affect the overall result and progress. Your topic itself, of course, will not make anyone worse, just like if you write another topic about the fact that centralized exchanges are dangerous, but this will not change anything in principle.

I disagree here.
If that topic to create awareness about the dangers of centralized exchanges, helps one person, it*s already a positive outcome. I'm always surprised how many people still don't know such basics.

Quote from: Ratimov on Today at 02:19:12 PM

If I were asked to give advice on how to improve my posting, I would highlight the following points:

- Don’t do translations without practical experience. That is, if you are translating something, you must have some knowledge regarding what you are translating.
- Write about your experience of interacting with various crypto services, such posts are very much appreciated.
- Open topics on themes that are personally interesting to you and in which you are best versed.
- If possible, open several topics and fill them with high-quality content about various add-ons, if this is some kind of service, or new products, if this is some kind of collection of services in LIST format.
- If you want to share news with the community, then do not engage in banal copying, tell it in your own words indicating the original source, or even better, add a few sentences with your comment or opinion.

At least, that's constructive criticism. +1
And could be seen as extension to my point 1 of my 1miau Merit criteria.

Quote from: Ratimov on Today at 02:19:12 PM

Your topic is not about the quality of posting, this topic is about the beautiful design of a post with a literary presentation of your thoughts. For many, the design of the post is not important, whether some words or GIFs with pictures are used, for many the essence is important. At least my post accurately reflects the state of affairs in my locale and I know better than you how everything works there and what is most valued. Just like you know better than me how everything works in the German locale.

How information is presented is a big criteria to make content more readable. No one like walls of texts because it’s very hard to read 20 lines of textblocks. We should always try to divide texts into meaningful paragraphs, add sub-headlines, add tables to visualize content etc.
BBCode has so many options.
And of course, we should also avoid pyramid quotes. Many idiots still do this.

In our local board, applying our local langage is very important. Bitcointalk has always been a very educated place and who really wants to read loads of illiterate gibberish, where so many spelling errors, punctuation errors, awful Denglish, inappropraite words or similar bullshit is written.
GazetaBitcoin has agreed to this, and it's hard to think about any reason, why we should not recommend to apply our local languages properly at a high level.