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I forgot the on-side goal. That was strange because if I understood the whole scene correctly, they didn't show a line in the VAR review on TV. I wondered why they wouldn't do that? But if anything was wrong there, wouldn't they be held accountable after the game as well? It would not be repeated of course, but if Liverpool says there was something wrong or they request the data, I can imagine that the VAR data is stored and has to be available for checks afterwards. Because I agree that the goal was very suspiciously given as off-side and hence taken back. I was like wow, I want to see that line. But they just didn't provide it. If for some reason it was so close that even their computers couldn't draw it, then it should be a goal.

I think so because if it was a clear off-side, you'd see the lines on the screen but it wasn't there. They went over the decision to disallow the goal very quickly.

Anyway, Liverpool has issued a statement following PGMOL's acknowledgement yesterday: https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/liverpool-fc-statement-5?amp=1

It would be great to see PGMOL being held accountable otherwise, these kinds of "significant human errors" is bound to repeat itself in the premier league. It's outright unfair to any club that is dealt that hand.

Thanks for sharing and this is really great into what's happening. I missed all of this and you know what, imagine the worst case scenario and this didn't happen at the beginning of the season, but in a head to head race on the last two matchdays when the title was still to be won for two teams and one team would be affected by such a decision. Skipping a goal scene like this and not drawing the graphic line with a computer is something that goes beyond me. I don't get it. I would really like to know whether they had technical issues or prefer to claim "significant human error". Both is really bad because a computer should be able to calculate it unless, and this is a problem, we are talking about 0.5 mm or something like that. Can their computers even catch that? I would also like to know the tolerances because it was very close but if I had to guess, I would say it was a goal. That is unacceptable.

Anybody who watched the game would know that was a clear on-side but the referrees were very quick to dismiss it and after queries from Liverpool players for the goal to be checked, they did and immediately showed that VAR has officially disallowed the goal. What's more interesting is that this happened early in the first half long before Tottenham even scored.

Like you said, if this had happened when each game might decide if title races are a hit or miss, such "significant human errors" can be catastrophic. I thought this is why we have VAR in the first place?