Quote from: tjtonmoy on Today at 04:48:51 PM

Quote from: DrBeer on Today at 03:32:47 PM

I don't want to stir up religious animosity or controversy, it's a pointless endeavor. BUT. Referring to someone controlling your destiny is a very convenient and comfortable concept to absolve oneself of responsibility. If a person does nothing, he will have nothing. If a person works, has goals and the desire to achieve - he achieves them. Environment - imposes some difficulties/comfort. But external circumstances also shape ordinary people. Faith is for the soul, but not for business, wealth, and prosperity. Let's not try to mix reality and religion !

Well, let me explain it a bit more for better understanding. It is said that you need to work for what you want. And you need to work hard. But what you get comes from Allah in the form of Rizq. It could be anything from food to clothes to drinking water. The concept here is to keep on working, but when it comes to getting value for what you have worked for, that's in the hands of Allah. To a religious person, it is something you should believe without any question. But to those who are not from the same religion, you can take it as a form of motivation. There's someone always to give you, so all you need to do is work in order to earn it. That's it.

Everything will work out somehow, that's the thing that keeps us going in life right? So you can take this as you want. But the results will always be positive in the end. Never give up and just keep on working. Ups and downs are just a part of life. But only the end results matter.

Agreed

If you evaluate the situation from the perspective of your Faith. Some believe Cthulhu is helping. Someone - that Zeus or Poseidon, and someone believes that it is the Great Tree. I believe that everyone has the right to believe whatever they want. It's everyone's personal business, it's freedom of religion... It's the rights of people in a free society!
I, as a pragmatist and atheist, am more inclined to a practical explanation of events, and this is also normal. If it is more convenient for you to attribute these events or the management of your life to your chosen faith, that is your right too!
But try to look at life through the eyes of a realist, and you will realize that between "religious explanations" and reality, there are a lot of nuances that "holy scriptures" do not correspond in any way.
And I hope you will not prove to me from the point of view of religious canons that being lazy, untalented, you can be happy, successful, and live in wealth and quality of life ? Once again I will return to the argument - you can believe in anyone or anything, but if you are a bum, have no goals, don't want to work - there will be no result !