Quote from: KTChampions on Today at 08:45:04 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on October 09, 2023, 09:56:33 AM

Quote from: KTChampions on October 09, 2023, 09:18:27 AM

It is quite fair to assume that Bayer Leverkusen may be a more dangerous opponent because Dortmund can turn on clown mode at any moment and lose points where no one could have predicted. Already now Bayer is rated better than Dortmund (but still too far from Bayern):

Fc Bayern Munich 1.25

Bayer 04 Leverkusen 7.50

Borussia Dortmund 11.00

It's funny that Bayer and Bayern have the same goal difference: 23-6

It is the classic odds by bookmakers for Bayern Munich. I will give them that as well because they are really the favourite for the league title by far. Their being at the third position now doesn't change anything for them. They are stronger than last season and the Kane transfer has been very beneficial.

Leverkusen and Stuttgart are doing really well on one hand maybe. But I would expect Stuttgart not to last very long. However hopefully Leverkusen can manage to stay in this race until the final moments. If Dortmund did it with a worse level of performance Leverkusen deserve to do this more than them with this game now.

Yep. It is quite difficult to expect other quotes when a team becomes champion 11 times in a row. If you look at it from this point of view, 1.25 can even be called a generous coefficient. However, if things continue the same way for Bayern, then I will begin to doubt them. They concede a lot of goals (in the Bundesliga this is not the case, but in the season on average yes) and so far their results are very far from the expected dominance.
As for Stuttgart, they have no chance in the long term, but it will be interesting how long they can stay at the top. Bayer is naturally the more serious contender.

Calling this a generous coefficient is a bit too much I think, but yes this is also owed to the fact that Dortmund is quite inconsistent at times. They have had some good results now for a while, but all too often they fall back into their weak game again and also make massive individual mistakes. As this will be punished by Bayern more than by any other team, I think the odds are about fair. Frankly, if I had to place a bet, I would probably go with a tiny bet on a Dortmund win although history proves me also wrong I think. I can't remember when Dortmund won their last game against Bayern in Munich.

I checked and Dortmund won their last game in 2018 at home against them. And it was in April 2014 when Dortmund won their last game in Munich 3-0. Ok, my hypothetical bet would likely fail Wink

but that is why the odds are the way they are.