Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on October 11, 2023, 09:07:12 AM

Do fast food workers not deserve PTO as well?

that's up to burger king or mcdonalds to decide not for me. and i won't have an opinion on how they run their private business.

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What is with your race to the bottom, to make everyone except the super rich suffer?

i think you're going off on a tangent. we shouldn't be trying to justify paying federal employees on federal holidays by saying the justification for it is because they are not "super rich". most of them probably make over $60,000 per year and i bet none of them is anywhere near the federal poverty level which is a joke in itself. the federal poverty level guidelines should be $35,000 for a single person. not $11,000 or whatever ridiculous number it is. call that number what it really is : the homeless level. Shocked

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Perhaps we should be looking to improve the conditions for all workers, rather than slashing the meager benefits that already exist for a handful of workers?

federal workers shouldn't be in a priviledged position. if they get paid for federal holidays then everyone should. but guess what everyone doesnt.

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Because it affects us all when our debt hits 300% of GDP, our economy collapses, and the USD becomes worthless.

then start being more willing to consider things that could reduce that debt even if they don't reduce it all the way down as far as you might like. if they have a lasting impact on spending that's what matters. erasing 5 billion per year (maybe more like 10) might not seem like it could have any impact but if you come up with 9 other similar sized reductions we're already at a tenth of a trillion dollars. you have to start somewhere and you're not going to start out by one big swoop necessarily. if you're waiting for that to happen then you may be disappointed.

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My point is you can make all the small changes you want to the detriment of 99% of the population, and all you will do is slow the speed the of debt increase and never actually halt or reverse it. If you want to actually address the problem and not just delay it, then we need much larger scale changes.

federal workers are not 99% of the population. i don't know what percent they are but i bet they make up less than 25% of the workforce. probably only 12% would be my guess. and we're supposed to feel sorry for them with all their high salaries and fringe benefits if they can't get paid on juneteenth for not working? no thanks.