Quote from: Kavelj22 on October 17, 2023, 11:28:23 PM

A few hours ago, the Israeli Defense Forces committed a new massacre in the Gaza Strip that exceeded all expectations. The forces bombed a hospital housing civilians fleeing the bombing, in addition to those injured as a result of the bombings. The targeting of the hospital left more than 600 dead, and the hospital administration confirmed that all of them were civilians.

How about checking sources first instead of just trusting any claims from Hamas? Roll Eyes

Because it turned out that the rocket was fired by Hamas itself and it crashed near the hospital, like the OSINT (Open Source Intelligence) community has confirmed:

That caused the explosion at a parking lot NEAR the hospital, not a rocket from Israel allegedly flying IN the hopsital.
There are even more irregularities in statements from Hamas:
- Hamas can't show any pictures of the alleged 500 dead civilians = it's very likely another lie from Hamas because if many people were killed, Hamas would spread the propaganda all over the place. But there are no pictures
- There are no rocket craters, as usual for rocket targets, another sign that a Hamas rocket misfired shortly after being launched near the hospital

It's summarized here, already reviewed by the OSINT community:
https://nypost.com/2023/10/18/all-of-the-evidence-that-shows-hamas-was-responsible-for-hospital-explosion/

Quote from: Kavelj22 on October 17, 2023, 11:28:23 PM

According to the latest statistics, the death toll as a result of the continuous bombing for 12 days exceeded 3,000, in addition to an unspecified number of wounded and the complete destruction of the infrastructure of the entire northern Gaza Strip, which is already besieged, while preventing the entry of food and medical aid through all crossings leading to the Gaza Strip.

Sure, 3000 deaths, like the 500 deaths from the hospital, LOL. Roll Eyes

Hamas has lost all credibility, therefore these numbers are 100% meaningless.
If someone dies, ask Hamas, why Hamas
- has incited the recent violence due to their massacre against israeli civilians, do you condem this?
- is using civilians as human shields to fabricate propaganda about deaths, while Hamas could have protected them

Hamas should come out and face Israel's army face to face. Of course Hamas won't do that because Hamas is scum hiding behind civilians.

Quote from: mikeywith on Today at 12:42:22 AM

There is no international law, there is only "power" in this world if you are strong enough to do whatever you want -- you will always get away with it, the human rights and all the rest of it are just pure propaganda to feed the average joe.

Turned out that the propaganda was from Hamas, trying to incite more hate in this ongoing conflict.
It's not just not helpful at all, it's also disgusting. A sane and educated person will check first, what happened and PROVE his claims. I want PROOF, not UNPROVEN accusations.
And even then, no one from these islamic extremists will apologize that the rocket was from Hamas, not from Israel.
All the extremist pawns (we have quite a bunch of the in Germany), will not apologize for spreading UNPROVEN lies to incite more hate.

Quote from: mikeywith on Today at 12:42:22 AM

As for the hospital blast, the Western media already has the plan to justify that given that the majority of their audiences are brainwashed, they could claim that this was done by Hamas on purpose or by mistake, they could also claim that Hamas was hiding rockets under that patients' beds, and those folks will happily accept the death of all those civilians and continue to send their hard-earned money in form of taxes to Israel

It would be nice to get some facts instead of unproven speculations that. Because it turned out that your claim aged like milk. Cheesy

Of course, spreading hate is much easier for Hamas apologists that to face the truth.
And no, the only ones who are brainwashed here are the vast majority of Hamas apologists, for parroting any unproven pro Hamas propaganda...

Stop getting brainwashed from Hamas propaganda and find out, what really happened, backed up by proof.

Quote from: mikeywith on Today at 12:42:22 AM

because somehow, they think that if Israel is gone, the next target will be their country, and surprisingly this is common western propaganda, because the Americans think the U.S will be next after Israel, and so do the French and the British and everyone else who supports Israel, it's like the Palestinians have some secret nuclear weapon which will deploy to erase the whole world and the only thing standing in the way of that magical bottom is Israel. Cheesy

I'm a very tolerant person but there's no doubt that all these Hamas supporters are not compatible with our German society. There's a small, extremist bunch, they reject any German societey norms. They behave like extremists and they are extremists.
They are trying to ignore the duty, that if you come to Germany, get ofered a good socil security, a good living standard, all the things, Germany has achieved, they need to be friendly and they need to accept the German culture. But instead, they are trying to reverse our German culture and engage in radical islamist behaviour.
They force their religious believs on others and if someone dares to criticize it, the critics will be massacred.
They don't accept the German culture and if we say them to do so, they will cause a massacre.
If their religion is critized, they will bomb the shit out of normal EU people.
They are fanatic.

Yes, after Israel is wiped off the map, which is the goal by Hamas and etc., EU and USA will be next.
We, in the west, are well advised to send this Hamas supporting scum right away, where it came from. There, these extremists can bomb themselves about their Allah bullshit, as it pleases them.
But not here in Germany.

Quote from: adamin1i on Today at 06:04:01 AM

The hypocrisy of the West, their use of definitions and concepts only when things are going in their favor, is disgusting.

You mean the hypocrisy of Hamas, when Hamas needs to spread fake propaganda, when in reality, the rocket near the hospital came from Hamas?
And, why is Hamas firing rockets near the hospital? Huh

Maybe using civilians as human shields again?
Nah, Hamas are the good guys... Roll Eyes

Hamas is disgusting scum and pawns like we have quite a few here on Bitcointalk are fooled too easily into spreading such disgusting Hamas propaganda.
Like now, all the news are out, where everyone claimed, Israel bombed a hospital and killed 500 people but the rocket was fired by Hamas.

Question all the propaganda, wait if any claims from any side are PROVEN, check it yourself and stop spreading UNPROVEN propaganda. Hamas is a terrorist organization and tries to incite a mayor war, where Hisbollah, the terrorist regime in Iran and some other islamist idiots will try to incite a big war.
We don't need such crap.