Quote from: khaled0111 on November 19, 2023, 10:58:22 PM

You made a multi quote but, as far as I can see, mikeywith isn't part of the duscusion you quoted! Why are you accusing mw of siding with digaran although he didn't even make a simple post to support digaran!

hmm, I don't think he meant that I was a part of the discussion between the two of them, he was just trying to "justify" why he left that feedback, which was a waste of time and effort because I did not contest the feedback itself, I only questioned the timing.

In fact, If you check his first feedback

Quote from: iwantmyhomepaidwithbtc2 on October 18, 2023, 11:55:36 PM

Quote from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=806776

1miau

2023-10-18

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digaran is a proven troll. He is known for spreading lies, harassing forum (DT) members and is known for his past shady dealings. Not to be trusted.

He just copied the same exact link from marlboroza feedback, then he deleted it and posted a new feedback with the original (not archived) post, I think right after the political discussion he had he was just rushing to punish everyone who disagreed with him, I am glad he doesn't have more power than that or else at moments of anger he could have caused some serious damage to everyone who disagrees with him.

Quote from: digaran on November 19, 2023, 11:14:14 PM

but would you be here if he was politically aligned with you?

I wouldn't, because I have been on his trust list since 2019, we interacted a dozen times, and I won't even count the number of PMs we had back and forth, I was always nice to him and he was always nice to me, he even invited me to the German section on many occasions, we always shared that "merit race" memories, I don't believe much in "online friendship" however, if there is such a thing, then 1miau and I were actually "online friends", but none of that made any difference to him the moment he discovered that I disagree with his political views, so if he did that to someone like me whom he knows and had a good relationship with, I can only imagine what he would do to someone he doesn't know or someone he dislikes for other reasons.

On a side but related note, @digaran, this isn't the perfect thread for your issues with 1miau which fall outside of the context of this thread, I am not going to discuss the legitimacy of the feedback he left you, it's only the timing that matters.

Quote from: 1miau on November 19, 2023, 11:33:17 PM

I'm usually only getting active with trust feedbacks, when I'm getting dragged into a confrontation.

You sure are, it's very clear what you did right after the political disagreement. Cheesy

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feel free to distrust me.

Or, I could expose your incompetence and let everyone decide for themselves.

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Also, I'm thinking your judgement is not something I would feel fine to support.
That's why I've distrusted you.

Ok so now you are gone from "trying to justify" to straight out "lie until they believe you", the only reason you did that was because I happened to disagree with you on a political subject, at least dare to admit it.

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How about backing your claims with some proof, that I would bring "untrustworthy members" into DT2?
Unproven speculations are exactly what we don't need on DT.

What a shady try from you to discredit me with things, where you don't have any proof.

I said "could", which is something that has a high probability of happening, the fact that you exclude members because of their political views, tag members right after they disagree with you, and remove positive feedback, suggests that you could at one point start to include members based on the exact reasons you remove them.

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I'm changing my trust list quite frequently, so you've been in the mix that week. It's not controversial at all.

it is very strange to remove someone you had in there since 2019, and then add them to your distrust list, just right after having a political disagreement. you still don't get it, it's not about me not being on your trust list anymore, it has exactly zero effect on my forum life, you want to make it sound like I am demanding your inclusion as if I created the same topic about everyone who distrusts me or doesn't include me in their list, you are smart enough to understand the basis of this topic but you keep pretending that you don't because you know very well that your political views reflect so hard on the way you use the trust system, you don't want to say it out loud despite actually practicing it, you are just afraid of losing that power and then whenever someone disagree with you on any political subject you won't have any DT power to "punish them".

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It's really sad to see your reaction here now about our personal issue because I believed this was (mostly settled)

If I wanted to discuss our personal issue I would have posted all the insults you pointed to me, or the PMs, or how bad I feel about losing someone who I considered a friend, but I am not here to discuss "our personal" issues, I am here to discuss your bad usage of the trust system since that affects the forum as a whole, not just you and I.

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I feel I'm way too often way too soft on trust issues.

I agree, and that's the cause of all this, you have some anger management issues, and you unleash the beast inside of you when people disagree with you, this is something that DT members must not do. if you can't handle disagreements, don't get yourself involved in discussions, it's unrealistic to expect people to agree with you on everything, and when they don't -- try to punish them with every tool at your disposal.