Quote from: AnonyMint on April 19, 2014, 09:20:27 PM

Furthermore, the Constitution never provided for the Federal government to own and manage large tracts of land. The Constitution limits the Federal power and they were to acquire facilities only as necessary to serve their function. Precisely because our forefathers were quite aware of what happens when the fox controls the hen house.

Quote from: bryant.coleman on April 18, 2014, 04:30:14 PM

I am slightly confused. Which side is the Fox News currently? Check this:

http://nation.foxnews.com/2014/04/18/exclusive-rancher-cliven-bundy-hits-back-after-reid-calls-family-domestic-terrorists

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"Well, I guess he's right," Bundy said, "I don't know what else we'd be. We're definitely citizens riled up. I don't know whether you could call us terrorists. There are the most loving people here I've ever met in my life."

The plan as always is to pretend to generate genuine inquiry to defuse the skepticism of a media conspiracy (or blackout), but then bury the original clarity under heaping shit-loads of endless talking heads, so the public tunes out to the original focus.

Overload them with stimulus and the brains of the masses are fried.

The forefathers you speak of also constituted the wealthiest and largest landowners of the colonies at the time of the revolution. The civil war also answered the question of both state and individual sovereignty. Put it simply, it ended both(if they ever really existed in the first place). The federal government became defacto sovereign. These United States became The United States. The 14th amendment also makes it clear that US citizens are SUBJECT to US government jurisdiction(which the civil war answered). Pre revolution colonies under the King had more autonomy then post. 20 years after the revolution, people were already being nostalgic about the good old days. After the Civil War, the US became a nation state and as of 1941 an empire.

Sorry to tell you but the US constitution was never a holy document with any real meaning. The federal government right from inception, has time and time again proven it can do whatever it wishes. When you build a foundation based on revolution, it will always be on unstable(lack of) principles. What they wrote on paper and what they did in reality are two different things. This goes back to the "founders" all breaking oaths they took. Why would men who broke their own word, be able to enshrine integrity into anything they created? Ever since the federal government has persistently followed no principles, constantly changing its tone based on what it sees fit at a given time. Every constitutional amendment has been redefined or reinterpreted time and time again. New ones were added to justify innovations(income tax). The constitution never had any real meaning. People pray to it like a holy relic. Talk about misguided and misinformed(state sanctioned education).

Bundy is fighting a losing battle that will cost him his wealth, well being and quite possibly even his life. What's the point? When he dies he will be forgotten about quickly.

You also keep quoting a convicted fraudster who read's tea leaves for economic projections as scripture. Martin Armstrong is a joke.