Quote from: Medusah on October 31, 2023, 10:35:45 AM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 31, 2023, 05:05:59 AM

government-approved, blockchain analyltics-audited UTXOs that are marked clean and free from "taint".

I bet $1000 that you will have any coinjoined bitcoin rejected from at least one centralized exchange, Wasabi or not.

Ask Kruw if he's confident enough that he can assure that that will not happen to Wasabi users.

Quote from: Kruw on October 31, 2023, 11:51:41 AM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 31, 2023, 05:05:59 AM

Get the context of what's being discussed ser. It's not about giving up custody

I am following the context of what's being discussed. You are desperate to take advantage of newbies by convincing them that they should use "mixing sites", which are honeypots of data that can steal your coins:

I'm merely taking about layering the process of mixing ser. What about, send your UTXO's through Lightning, mix/tumble through a mixer, send again through Lightning, then on-chain, then send to Wasabi's coordinator? I believe that could be successful in not getting false positives, no?

In Lightning -> Mixer -> Lightning, what data could a mixer possibly get assuming that the user is using the service behind TOR + VPN?

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 26, 2023, 05:42:04 AM

To the newbies/plebs. Mixers, the honest services, are incentivized by profit. If they do a good service, then more people will use them = more profit. Kruw is merely having a bad mood because of her period.

I am here (along with Theymos) to warn users NOT to use these centralized "mixers":

Quote from: theymos on May 30, 2019, 02:29:09 AM

For everyone looking to improve their privacy, I highly recommend checking out Wasabi, especially over centralized "mixers".

You can insult Theymos and I by saying we are on our periods, but we are protecting newbs from having their coins stolen or tracked. In the spirit of the 15th anniversary, you should also read the Bitcoin whitepaper and see what Satoshi Nakamoto had to say about trusted third parties:

Quote from: Satoshi Nakamoto

A purely peer-to-peer version of electronic cash would allow online payments to be sent directly from one party to another without going through a financial institution. Digital signatures provide part of the solution, but the main benefits are lost if a trusted third party is still required to prevent double-spending.

Insult? Pardon me, that was meant to be funny, not offense. But about trusted third parties, isn't zkSNACKS' coordinator a trusted third party? Roll Eyes