Quote from: borovichok on November 02, 2023, 10:20:49 PM

Quote from: Raflesia on November 02, 2023, 09:54:36 PM

Firing Ten Hag would indeed be easy with the performance he currently has but the problem is whether after Ten Hag leaves there will be a guarantee that Manchester United will change drastically with a new coach because if in the end the performance remains the same then they themselves lose in addition to financial terms because firing will require money for compensation and finding a suitable new coach will not be easy and require even more money in the end.

Sacking Erik Ten Hag won't solved the main current problem of Manchester United. The players are suffering from fatigue and some of them are in their worst form this season. It's not everything we should pour blames on Erik Ten Hag, rather we also should look at the present matter, players during games have failed to improve their qualities and performance, rather they succumb to terrible stats which is having a negative effects on the team. What United needs at the moment is excellent players that will bench the present ones, specifically the ones that's not performing upto expectations.

I agree if indeed this is the responsibility that Ten Hag must bear because after all when he has decided to be at Manchester United then indirectly this is his duty to improve Manchester United to be even better but it does not mean that with the current conditions he must be fired immediately because in the end this is also a gamble when he is fired immediately and Manchester United still has the same problem then indirectly apart from wasting money, they are also getting worse with a performance that is not too optimal.
Moreover, it is still early in the season and will enter the middle of the season and actually with their current condition at the beginning of this season is not too far from their condition last season when there was a conflict with Cristiano which made his performance not very good but after their problems were over everything returned to normal for Manchester United.
This means that for now they just have to fix the internal problems first well because when that is fixed then consistency will follow on its own with cohesiveness assured once the storm of internal problems is over.

Quote from: Wend on November 02, 2023, 10:31:27 PM

Quote from: Raflesia on November 02, 2023, 09:54:36 PM

The problem that needs to be addressed now is the fact that firing the coach is not a wise decision either as it is a gamble that will ultimately come down to a choice where changing the coach could be beneficial or even detrimental to the club itself.
Manchester United certainly understand what happened in the Rangnick and Ole era which in the end is what made them fall.
Firing Ten Hag would indeed be easy with the performance he currently has but the problem is whether after Ten Hag leaves there will be a guarantee that Manchester United will change drastically with a new coach because if in the end the performance remains the same then they themselves lose in addition to financial terms because firing will require money for compensation and finding a suitable new coach will not be easy and require even more money in the end.

Erik Ten Hag is making MU more mediocre than ever. This is an unacceptable result for the club, ranked 7th worldwide regarding player purchases in the most recent transfer window. Obviously, rebuilding Man Utd is too big a task for Ten Hag. He lost the value of his players. His game plan was meaningless, and the blame would lie with him.
The wave of Erik ten Hag's dismissal is higher than ever. However, I guess the Glazer family will have to pay contract compensation of up to 15 million pounds if they fire coach Ten Hag. So, when considering his replacement, we must be cautious. It's best for the Board of Directors to find a coach much more talented than him before taking risks.

This is still much better than the previous era and in my opinion this season is still the same as the first season for Ten Hag last season when he had problems with Ronaldo which made many parties affected including the performance of Manchester United itself so this cannot be used as a benchmark that Manchester United became mediocre.
10 matches with 5 wins and 5 losses do show that they still have a lot of problems to solve but indeed we know what the root of the problem at the beginning of this season Manchester United was like when the upheaval in the club owner's seat, the injury problem of the players, the problem of Antony and now the problems related to Sancho and Ten Hag.
Manchester United have too many internal problems every season and their job is to fix that and firing and replacing coaches will also be a gamble if their internal problems are not resolved.