Quote from: Kruw on November 01, 2023, 02:31:48 PM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on November 01, 2023, 02:21:21 PM

I'm merely taking about layering the process of mixing ser.

You are not talking about "layering the process of mixing", you are accusing me of misinformation by warning people about the profit incentives for mixer sites stealing your Bitcoins and selling your data:

Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 26, 2023, 05:42:04 AM

We know that CoinJoins done the right way are superior than traditional mixers, but can you please STOP that. There are newbies in the forum that read our posts. We're here to learn, debate, and find truth in many matters. We can't merely accept that kind of stupid viewpoint from a developer of one popular Bitcoin app.

Misinformation will not work. Write the pros and cons, or simply write the truth.

To the newbies/plebs. Mixers, the honest services, are incentivized by profit. If they do a good service, then more people will use them = more profit. Kruw is merely having a bad mood because of her period.

Because it's debatable if centralized mixing services are actually incentivized to do it. If users find that out, then no one would use that service. How can you say that they are incentivized to do it? It can also be financially bad for them.

OK, for the sake of the discussion about layering the process of mixing, let's use JoinMarket instead of centralized mixers/tumblers.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on November 01, 2023, 02:21:21 PM

But about trusted third parties, isn't zkSNACKS' coordinator a trusted third party?

No, coinjoin coordinators are not trusted with any user funds or user data. Coordinators only provide a messaging service.

OK, but will it work?

- If a Dark Market user sends his UTXOs to himself/herself through Lightning, then use JoinMarket, then send his UTXOs again to himself through Lightning, THEN mix them through WasabiWallet.

Will blockchain analysis detect that it's a layered mix? I believe the connection to those original Dark Market UTXOs would be gone, no?