Quote from: junder on November 04, 2023, 05:44:18 PM

Quote from: maydna on November 04, 2023, 02:51:54 PM

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Right I think it should be like that, I mean they have to experience a really significant downturn in gambling to be able to make themselves realize that this is an activity that has a high risk and is not at all a place to earn income and also so that they realize that they have gone too far in their gambling involvement. It is true that if we want to know whether we are addicted or not one of them as you suggest is quite reasonable, when we have a losing streak but we still want to gamble then of course I think it is very appropriate to conclude that we are addicted, because usually people who are addicted are always excessive in gambling, they will not accept defeat and continue to want to win at the end of the session, even though on the other hand gambling is just an activity for entertainment when we are bored to just fill the time by trying their luck. If we have confirmed that we are addicted then we better try to start reducing the activity, yes I understand it is quite difficult but on the other hand nothing is impossible and I am sure you are also uncomfortable with always being in such a cycle.

One preventive measure that is quite effective in my opinion is to put a budget amount that we can be responsible for whatever the results are, don't overdo it because the end result will not always be appropriate.

And if these people could start observing what was happening to them during this time, of course, they would see that they had started to experience a gambling addiction, and they should be able to reduce their gambling activities. Maybe it won't be easy for them because they are getting used to gambling, so they need other things that can be used as a diversion so they can reduce their gambling activities. But usually, we will not realize that we have started to experience a gambling addiction and will assume that we are still fine, so that will make us continue gambling without even trying to reduce our gambling activities. It's the little things like that that we have to pay attention to and try to reduce before we get into bigger problems. If we still can't realize it, we will lose because we will become addicted to gambling and lose even more money.

We can only allocate a certain amount of money for gambling and always try to be disciplined and not overdo it so that we don't lose all the money. We must be able to leave some money to use another day so that we don't need to deposit money again.

Quote from: Oilacris on November 04, 2023, 06:00:10 PM

Quote from: maydna on November 03, 2023, 02:54:31 PM

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Regret do always come at the end and not in front on which people would really be that making on things on which they do really believe that would really be that beneficial for them. This is why it would really be that always considerable that you should really be that careful and responsible on whatever actions you are making. Gambling isnt really that bad as long you are really that making yourself that responsible with your actions because if you do make yourself that engage with gambling then there's no problem to that. The only thing that you would really be needing to avoid is to make yourself that get addicted to it on which you should really be that careful on not to be shackled with it because on the time that you would really be experiencing such thing then pretty sure it would really be that resulting into such disaster specially if you are that someone who arent really that good when it comes on handling out addiction or something that really impulsive.

Yes, that's true, but it is because of their own fault that they don't want to think about the risks they will receive from gambling. If they had thought about it from the start before they gambled, they certainly wouldn't have taken too big a risk and would have spent all their money instead. It will make them irresponsible with their finances, and if they keep repeating it, it is only a matter of time before they see themselves becoming addicted to gambling. And if they have a gambling addiction, it will be difficult to cure because they will not realize it easily but will continue gambling as usual. If there were people around him who could advise him to learn to control himself, he wouldn't want to hear it because it wouldn't be of any use to them until, in the end, he had to lose all his money before he could start to realize it.

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Quote from: maydna on November 04, 2023, 02:51:54 PM

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Yes, that is the best way to provide awareness to gambling addicts who can no longer be given advice or direction so that they can recover and return to normal if gambling is also just for fun with limited time and finances.

It can't be that easy because when someone has experienced gambling addiction they will forget about everything, especially the awareness of being able to overcome the addiction problem.
Maybe you can say that when you feel addicted to gambling you have to be aware and find way to overcome it, but have ever experienced phase where really couldn't stop gambling so were categorized as gambling addict?

I have experience in gambling addiction and all of that made me lose lot of things, I will say that it is difficult to be conscious and immediately find way to overcome gambling addiction before we have nothing left to money and lose the people around us that we.
When you have reached this point, conscious thoughts can appear by themselves without the need for encouragement or advice from other people.

But the people who advise him must be careful because after the gambler loses all his money, he can get loans from other people easily because maybe he has done it many times without anyone knowing. From the borrowed money, he will continue gambling, and perhaps he can win some money so that he can return all the borrowed money and have more money for his gambling capital.

I have forgotten whether I have experienced it or not, but maybe I have, but I am trying to forget it. But if we want to admit it, by wanting to return to gambling again even after a few days, it shows us that we are starting to experience the initial symptoms of gambling addiction. And if it is not managed well, the initial symptoms will grow and will ultimately influence us to continue gambling.

And yes, when someone is addicted to gambling, he will lose many things, especially his family, because his focus is only on gambling, and he doesn't think about his family's situation. He won't even care about his own condition. It is indeed difficult to realize this, but as you said, conscious thoughts can arise by themselves, but what the next action is will depend on each person.