Quote from: TopTort777 on Today at 09:35:47 AM

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 09, 2023, 12:23:50 PM

What a hot discussion here Grin

Do you think we need a rematch? Why not make another poll? Even though Fury won in a split decision, I dont think there should be a rematch. The problem was not because Ngannou is so good and can fight with champions on equal level, but simply because Fury underestimated him. If they would have a rematch I dont think that Fury is going to be so passive and slow. Because in that fight he did not show any footwork and tactics. He was rather straightforward. There were no tricks from him. He was only better at talking before the fight.

I agree that we could use a new poll, but I disagree that there shouldn't be a rematch. So the only argument is that we can assume that Fury underestimated Francis and he would surely destroy him in a rematch? By that logic, why do we have any fights at all, why not just make assumptions on who would defeat who Grin

Fury himself admitted that he came properly prepared and did not underestimate Ngannou's skills, so there's no reason not to believe him.
He will fight with Usyk anyway, so there's no need he can't fight Francis again after that. I think the exceptionally good performance of Francis put a dent in entire boxing as a sport, so it's in everyone's interest to have Fury proving to the world that he can do better than the first time around.

Maybe I saw different interview, but in mine Fury told that due to there were no videos of Ngannou real boxing fights, they did not know what to expect. All the knew Ngannou has speed and power. Not much to build tactics on. Well, if on October 28 we saw prepared Fury, who fully understood what to expect from Ngannou, then no doubt he would have huge troubles against Usyk. My offer if Fury should have a rematch was more addressed to those who say that Ngannou won Cheesy

But in general I would love to see fight against Usyk, then against Ngannou.

Well there is video of his fights in MMA, at least the striking aspect is clearly shown there. So they could used it as a basis for them to gauge how good Ngannou will be as a boxer. For me they really underestimated him as he is a MMA fighter. And I do think that Fury is just saying post fight that Francis is good or even a difficult fight that Usyk (obviously he is down playing Usyk here).

Nevertheless, its a rude awakening for the champion and he is very lucky that the judges give him the win here. I know that there is a continuing debate as to who win this fight. But it's clear to me that Fury didn't prepared or trained very hard in this fight, he is just saying that he did after the beatings that he got so somewhat stroke his ego and not to hurt.