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Quote from: twiki on Today at 09:31:15 AM

Manchester United lost all ground. Everything has been wasted, time and effort, but I don’t understand why! Rather, it’s all a waste of time and energy for the fans.
As for me, this is the end of the history of a good and successful club..

If you say that about a club called Manchester United, what about the clubs that are in the relegation zone until now, especially in the Premier League? I don't think it's appropriate to say that every club is just wasting time and energy, because as long as every club can still struggle through their matches and the way they play in this ongoing season. So there is nothing wrong with that, even though the results are not as expected by the fans themselves, because giving up to conditions and circumstances is more embarrassing than bad results after struggling.

It's too early to talk about Man United being in the relegation zone, the league is still long and anything can still happen. Indeed, currently Man United is in a downturn, not only in the EPL league, even in the UCl League they are in a slump. After all, every club has been in a down situation like this, it's just that there are clubs that can recover in a short time. This is different from Man United, where the problems they face are very complex, starting with management, managers and fans being in the spotlight. But I'm sure Man United will recover in the near future. They just need time besides that there are still many players who are injured.

I believe all coaches are great and have been proven at previous clubs, it's just that the atmosphere and style of play in each league is different, you need to keep trying and a little luck.

That's right, basically the season will still run long enough and with it there will still be many surprising events that we never knew before, yes on the other hand it is true that this season Man United is really unlucky with the slump they suffered even in two leagues at once Premier League and UCL they really can't give a better performance. It is true that on the other hand every club will definitely be or have experienced a decline and increase in each season, as Man United is experiencing now, and to confirm this is last season Ten Hag managed to give a pretty good performance, they finished in third place in the standings and that means last season they have a fairly consistent performance but now everything is reversed, far from the hopes and expectations of the fans and of course nothing else because as you said this is natural because every club will definitely experience a decline and increase at certain times.

Honestly I can't say for sure if Man United will be able to recover soon this season, but maybe for this season it's too early to assume they will be able to recover that quickly, and maybe it will happen in the next few seasons in my opinion.