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Quote from: Justbillywitt on October 13, 2023, 03:18:26 AM

we should learn how to control our tongue at all time. Don't say unguided words when in public place.

this is a very serious matter that I learned in a very hard way, So let me share my experience regarding this.
During my finals in school I had a project supervisor that disturbed us seriously on the amount of money we should pay for my project work. We paid paid the amount he told us and when we finished the the whole project work, a day to our submission he came up with this random 15k that we should pay before ever signing our work. We begged him but he refused and that led us not to do our internal defence. That made me very angry at him and at several occasion I will make unguided statement behind his back about how wicked the man his and on how he treated us very bad. The department latter allowed us to joined in the final defense and while we where waiting for out turn for the defence, conversation came up and I repeated the same statement that he is a bad man man and I made statement like " that man chop our money wetin no good" after I made that statement I looked behind me and saw that he was standing just next to me. I was shocked and speechless and even had to run away because I didn't know how to react at that moment and that was when my sense cane back to me that I was being too unguided with how I use my thong. Till date I still have some things I needed him to help me with but because of what I said, I I don't even know how to approach him anymore.

I know once the thought gets to the mind, it becomes very difficult not to utter it out but we should be very careful on what we say in the public because the walls truly have ears.

I have some troubles with the framing of this topic because it seems that there are a variety of situations in which authority could end up getting abused and yeah of course, I don't likely know enough about Nigeria, yet people have natural rights to speak out and stand up to authority (but run the risk of getting quashed in some systems.. sometimes by other people helping the authorities and sometimes by the authorities), and people also have rights to be skeptical of authority even if they might or might not be able to speak out.

I also have troubles with the idea that generally speaking that people have to control their tongue, even though we do likely build up some of these ideas based on where we are living, and in that regard, there may well be circumstances in which danger comes to police officers if they do not make sure that the people in a crowd kind of a situation do not end up rebelling up against them while they are doing their supposedly official search and/or patrol duties.. and hopefully at the same time, they end up being accountable to higher authorities within their ranks if they go beyond certain levels of acceptable behavior...

Ultimately the police officers are supposed to be carrying out the public good and not just their own good, but yeah we know that police systems will some times have several levels of corruption so it can be difficult for superiors to hold lower level officers corrupt if some of the superiors are also corrupt, so in the context of a search, it could become quite difficult to challenge any officers when they are in the middle of carrying out their official duties because they are not going to want to increase their own levels of danger by allowing the crowd to mass up against them, and during such situations, there maybe is not as much ability to speak out freely because of the balancing of the officer's need to carry out their duties and to portray themselves as legitimately exercising authority and they also want to stay safe too.

Frequently, we are not very likely to know all the circumstances of any search, except maybe what the officer says and if there might have been some context or some other similar searches, and if we just presume all searches are not just and/or legitimate then maybe we are thinking like the girl and we want to say something in the middle and while the search is taking place, but then at that time, we may well end up interfering with the officer's abilities to carry out their official search duties whether it may have been a just and fair search or not.

As far as the police's ability to merit out their own punishment towards the girl, those kinds of behaviors will vary from location to location, and surely some police officers are not going to engage in those kinds of behaviors to met out personal justice or even to be self-serving because they have internal ideas of right and wrong in regards to carrying out their official duties, but the extent to which some officers might decide to engage in those kinds of behaviors of either metting out their own personal versions of justice or receiving benefits from the carrying out of their official duties might depend partially upon the likelihood that they will end up getting caught and/or punished for such behaviors...and perhaps it also might depend partially if their colleagues are engaging in such behaviors and getting away with such behaviors, then they may well be more willing to do what many of the other officers are doing in the same kinds of situations. The upper echelon of officers might even allow a certain level of those kinds of personal and corrupt behaviors to happen with their officers, even though the conduct might not be official and yet it could gain some semi-official status if the higher up officers are allowing self-serving metting out of justice to take place..