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Quote from: 1miau on Today at 05:56:01 PM

The details are not irrelevant at all as your post here is a great example what lead to your exclusion of my trust list.

Lying again 1miau?
You excluded me long before I started this topic, the exclusion happened because you disagreed with my point of view on a very specific political war.

You are the one lying here by cutting out the fact that the talk is about our discussion in P&S, here's the uncensored quote:

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Quote from: mikeywith on Today at 04:25:03 PM

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 02:45:55 PM

I think this sums it up nicely. I don't feel like reading all the details,

The details of the discussion in P&S are irrelevant

The details are not irrelevant at all as your post here is a great example what lead to your exclusion of my trust list.

The ugly things you accused me back then (and you still do it today), that I would deny dead children in Gaza is simply disgusting and reason alone to distrust you if you think it’s ok to switch my words like that and you even show no guilt at all, when I’m exposing this.
The community has tried here to start a level-headed discussion, which is a reasonable approach in my opinion, that's why I've agreed to LoyceV.

But the only thing you are able to is to repeat the same bullshit again and again becuase you are running out of arguments.
You are obsessed with it and you are simply too radicalized to notice this.
As said before, I’ve got accused 2 years ago in the German section, that I would be anti-Isreal after I've critized the Israeli settlers in the west bank.
Now, I'm getting accused that I would be anti-Palestine for criticizing Hamas.

This is not helpful for anyone.

Quote from: mikeywith on Today at 07:21:07 PM

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It's not possible to have a resonable debate with you because you are completely radicalized on this issue.

Lol, how am I radicalized, did I insult you?

It's not possible to have a reasonable discussion with you.
Simple as that.

Quote from: mikeywith on Today at 07:21:07 PM

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while I thought the issue was settled and we would move on.

I thought the same after 10 mins discussion on P&S I thought what happens in P&S stays in P&S, but you had to continue your insults via PM, and did all the trust system related stuff, you had no plans of moving on before you had punished everyone who did not agree with you.

The issue was settled after 2 days as I believed it would be best to part ways and of course, I took my conclusions. Getting my words twisted back and fort, getting tons of stupid accusations and name-calling from your radicalized posts, your spot on my distrust list was well deserved and will be well deserved further because I'm not re-evaluating it for the time being due to your actions over the last days.
I'm done with your nonsense.
But looks like you are still mad. Cheesy

Quote from: mikeywith on Today at 07:21:07 PM

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misleading accusations against me.

hmm, I intentionally put the "accusations" in numbered points, which one of them is misleading?

You clearly haven't read my post. Roll Eyes

Quote from: mikeywith on Today at 07:21:07 PM

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After reading your hateful comment against me, while we were already a step further with examplens and LoyceV, there's no doubt that you are the one, who's acting emotional and without any possibility to reason with. Sometimes it's very helpful to read your comments again and think twice if it's not better to add a bit less hate and accusations. Wink

a step further to what exactly? do you promise that you will grow up and stop abusing the trust system by punishing everyone who disagrees with your rant? if you do, I will lock the thread, but while you are still attacking me to discredit the facts I posted about you -- you don't seem to be looking for a regulation, you are looking for this to end as if nothing has ever happened.

A step further, that you will grow a thicker skin and don't call it abuse when you get on my distrust list after your bullshit performance in P&S. At least we know now that you would resort to disgusting lies against me and word twisting any time again. That's not someone I want to remove from my distrust list any time soon.

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2 years ago, in our German section, some people accused me that I would be anti-Isreal after I've critized the isreaeli settlers in the west bank.
Now, I'm getting accused that I would be anti-Palestine for criticizing Hamas. With blunt lies, of course.

Nobody gives a shit about what you think about the conflict, it's up to you to say and do whatever you want about it, it's a free forum, just keep this out of the trust system and nobody would accuse you of anything again.

Then, you should stop to twist my words and stop writing things I've never said.

Quote from: mikeywith on Today at 07:21:07 PM

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I would be happy if Palestinians and Israelis would peacefully co-exist.

Lol, so you expect a 70-year old conflict to have a happy ending when you can't stand 10 mins debating about it behind the screen? I really want to know, if you had more tools to use against me and those who disagreed with you, something like a death note of some kind, would you have written our names in it? Roll Eyes

I can collect all of your childish missteps and present them on a new topic in Reputation, how about that?
Would be very helpful for both of us and more unnecessary drama or are you planning to do this:

Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 02:45:55 PM

This has potential to turn into a year-long-feut. Don't go there, get a beer together and move on.

I'm not in favor of that, I'm in favor of this:

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Quote from: LoyceV on Today at 02:45:55 PM

This has potential to turn into a year-long-feut. Don't go there, get a beer together and move on.

I can agree here and that would probably the worst outcome, helping no one.

Quote from: mikeywith on Today at 07:21:07 PM

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Fair point, I've changed that as I believe a reasonable debate is possible with you. Sometimes, it's better to move on and sort it out peacefully.

I really want to believe that you are honest about this, but I have a strong feeling you are saying this now because things look bad for you, you can't stick to your theory of "given that you disagree with my political views, I will have to exclude you and cause you whatever damage possible".

Again something of the sort "might", "possibly", "I have the feeling" = unproven speculations!
Don't you believe in people to settle things peacefully? Or are you just trying to keep the hate going, while everyone is calling for a peaceful solution?
It's a very important point of DT and part of growing a thicker skin.

Quote from: mikeywith on Today at 07:21:07 PM

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mikeywith is trying to "punish" me because I dared to exclude him from my trust list

I think you said this like 5 times already, and you know it's not true if I wanted to solve the exclusion, I would have PMed you and settled the matter with you, and I would not have asked theymos to blacklist me from DT1 which I was in probably long before you learned how to create your trust list.

Wow, thanks for confirming that you are just trying to silence me with the big hammer instead of any other civil solution. Cheesy

Quote from: mikeywith on Today at 07:21:07 PM

This has everything to do with you using the trust system to punish people who don't share the same political opinions as you, so this conflict between us won't end with you removing me from your exclusion, it won't end by saying you want to end it and have a fresh start, it will only end when you stop punishing other people for not sucking up to your views.

But be careful that it's not coming back to you because your posts are increasingly looking very desperate that you won't reach your "goal" to leave any damage against me and this might not be a very good look for you especially due to the fact, that your arguments are very weak.
Should everyone create a thread about the same issue, when someone has some beef on the forum, Reputation would be a clown show.

I will continue to disprove your reaction in our P&S discussion.
You think that my reaction is not appropriate and a "punishment" for you.
I don't have any reason to remove you from my distrust list but I will have to accept, that you don't agree to that.
You can continue to be mad at me (if you like so) but you'll have to accept that any unproven accusation does not help.

We won't come together here but we can try.
The community woul like that we can try.
So we can try to agree to disagree. Enough wasted internet space...