Quote from: MinoRaiola on Today at 03:33:10 PM

I am ready, users who do not want to post here in their name that they can write to me and I will post it "unknown". You can send me a private message and I will add it.

The number of PMs I got here and on telegram regarding this subject in the past 4 days is probably more than I ever got in a month, this is the saddest part about all of this, it's like we are in the most miserable dictatorship forum where people are afraid to speak up, a forum where cursing is allowed, scam is allowed, but freedom of speech is a privilege to just a few of us, this has become far less "free community" than the centralized social media like the likes of Facebook.

But if you were to ask me, this isn't 1miau's and the other abusers' fault entirely, the most part falls on those who are willing to trade their freedom of speech for a few bucks a week from signature campaigns, those pool people are brainwashed to think that someone like 1miau operates in a large network where he is protected by all other DT members and that nobody will stand by their side against him, those people have little to no clue about the forum history, Lauda was thought to be someone who controls not only other DT members but theymos himself, but all of that turned out to be an illusion and when enough people stood up against him, he fell (which was a sad end for Lauda if you ask me, but ya that's off-topic)

So ya, oppression ends when fear does, nobody should be scared of any DT member, all DT members are just human, they are subject to make mistakes and thus need to be pointed at and fixed, or removed from DT, if everyone grow some balls -- the forum will be a better place.

Quote from: 1miau on Today at 12:40:37 PM

Another suggestion for mikeywith, where I'm ready to concede ground:

Lets lock this topic until 01.01.2024 that the dust settles.
You can watch my feedbacks and trust list changes until then.
If you think, from now on until 01.01.2024 there would be "abuse" according to you, you could open this topic again, presenting evidence.
The outcomes:
- If the evidence is weak, DT will judge that accordingly.
- If the evidence is true and DT confirms this, I'll accept further distrusts from DT members.
- If there's no abuse, the topic will remain closed and we will move on.

You could review my trust feedback and trust list any time, from every entry that happens from now on until then. That way, you could interfere into my DT decisions for some time.
So you see, I'm ready to concede massive ground to find a solution here. I'm stepping back from the demand that any interference into my DT decisions is not acceptable.
I'm stepping back from my demand.
So, as I've said I'm ready to concede this massive ground to you.
How about that?

Ok, it's good to see you come to somewhat common sense, although we still have a major disagreement about what is "abuse", also, there is no mention of your past feedback, we agree to what happens to the future, but you do not seem to consider your previous feedback.

if you were to show serious behavior correction, by deleting all political feedback you left (including neutral) then I will take you seriously and agree to your terms, be it to lock this topic till next year or even forever.

Obviously, this doesn't mean you can delete feedback that says " Putin supporter, bla bla bla" and add a new one that says "He is a troll", or to continue to exclude everyone who disagrees with your statements, as Yahoo told you, many people are going to be watching you, I hope you don't try to outsmart everyone and to actually be honest about leaving all the political and personal drama outside of the trust system.

I do not want to win or score a point against you, after all, as I mentioned before, the goal was never to get you out of DT, the goal is to point you to what I (and many others think) is a form of abuse. if I had the power to choose between getting you out of DT or stopping you from using the trust system for political-related stuff, I would always choose the latter as long as there is hope in you.

Also just so that this whole thing does not end up with me "winning" anything out of it, I would urge you to keep me in your exclusion forever.