Quote from: Branko on Today at 12:42:58 AM

Quote from: paxmao on Today at 12:27:11 AM

I have not yet seen a video from the Ruzzies depicting something like the sea of rusted steel near Avdiivka. Not even the disasters at Vulheldar last year.

RE meatwaves attacks, I have recently seen a document on how Wagner threw the convicts in front. They had the worst equipment, but also were without radio. There was no way they could communicate that they were being hit by friendly fire or retreating. They would not know where the second line was. Thus, any retreat would mean that they would be fired upon by their own (I guess they did not really have "their own").

On this attack the Ukrainians would fire upon them and reveal the positions. Then mortar and artillery fire would be used in the general direction of this positions. Logically, the first line of Ruzzis was very close, so they were as likely to die as the Ukrainians, perhaps more since they were not digged in.

That's Bhakmut, but now the regular army is trying the same technique, but the problem seems to be that at least Wagner had good instructors and good morale in the contractors. The regulars don't, so they just loose the front troops and achieve nothing.

Look, this technique is not that uncommon, the armies use screeners and in the musket age, they had the skirmishers to "protect the main body of the troops" by putting themselves in the middle.

You got it all wrong about who won Bakhmut battle Grin

And recent reveal about 1.1m dead Ukrainian soldiers also tells who had
upper hand all this time

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Thanks for yet another link at propaganda. The figure you are providing is several multiples out of the even most optimistic Ruzzian hopes.

In Bakhmut, Wagner took the ruins of an empty city previously known as Bakhmut at a cost in lives that may actually exceed the original population of the city - we will not know, but in the tens of thousands it is for sure. Apart from massive shelling, the advances were based on sending forward the most expendable troops in any number needed. I am sure you consider that a Victory and you are right in taking it as such - that is as much of a victory as is going to get for Ruzzia.

The regulars are trying that now, but they just do not have the sauce.

BTW, you thin this guy won?

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Have you seen the fireworks in the Saky airfield in Crimea? It must be the cold weather that makes the Ruzzis make bonfires?