Quote from: CaptainLance on December 01, 2023, 02:43:31 PM

Legitimate mixers won't have any issues promoting their services in various platforms. There are social medias whic everyone uses. Plus, a person who knows what a mixer is, definitely knows how to google search a legitimate mixing service.

Social media and ads for mixers? Is that actually a thing? I'm very surprised if it's allowed there and not here...further addressing that ...

Quote from: aioc on December 01, 2023, 04:19:42 PM

Google is not banning mixers and platforms that review and advertise mixers so a user will just have to type the word mixer, unless Google filters out mixer keywords and platforms that advertise and promote mixers, you can still find them here in the mainnet not only on the darknet and other online communities discuss and promote mixers like Reddit.

Maybe in the future when US authorities request the major search engines to ban Mixers from showing up in search queries and request domain registrar and hosting to ban mixers that will be the time that we will not see mixers on the internet only on the darknet.

...I highly doubt that an account would be able to easily promote a mixer on google or social media if it does not align with the US financial regulators guidelines, being that mixers aren't banned, but they must KYC their customers. If a mixer isn't following that guideline and others, I doubt that they'd last long on Google before ban or questioning.

I personally wouldn't trust one being promoted on those platforms purely because there would have to be a string attached currently or in the near future.

Quote from: TryNinja on December 01, 2023, 02:26:56 PM

Darknet sites, probably?

Drug-related forums, marketplaces, etc...

Basically: legit users will have a harder time finding legit ones; criminals will still have access to it. Tongue

Summed up well...
Unfortunately.
It shouldn't be that way for legit users.

Quote from: Darker45 on December 02, 2023, 04:25:01 AM

Words spread fast these days. How do you think did the Lazarus group hear about Blender, Tornado Cash, Chipmixer, Sinbad, and others? Bitcointalk.org? I don't think so.

It's not as if this forum is the last bastion for all these players, not even in the surface web. And the surface web isn't probably the playground for the likes of this group. The deep web and the dark web are a wider playground for them. I think news about a new mixer would spread out pretty quick in those areas.

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Quote from: rat03gopoh on December 02, 2023, 11:05:30 AM

Quote from: Synchronice on December 02, 2023, 10:02:31 AM

To be honest, I think that Lazarus group is a fictional group. It doesn't make sense for North Korea to have so talented hackers, even if they are protected by the government, it still doesn't make sense if we keep in mind the philosophy of that country. Also, Lazarus group has so much money and so many talented people, they could run their own mixer/coinjoin services instead of using someone else's.

I kind of agree with this, I think it's just a result of investigators' inability to track crimes, why not just say that these criminals are in extreme areas that they can't access. Or (random thingking), it's actually a concocted "project" to confiscate the multimillion dollar money resstrained in a mixer.

I would hope that these accusations are not just baseless propaganda, that would he pretty messed up if so. However, I wouldn't put it past MSM and crypto MSM to follow this agenda to prevent anyone from any case looking like the perpetrators were truly anonymous, as this would inspire the wrong kinds of people.

North Korea having a talented hacking group, would be an investment that makes sense for that country. It would be ironic considering the entire population has no access to media and information outside of their country (still no internet too?)...but it would be in line with what they do. Those hackers would have no choice but to work for their government, or reenter a society where computers are virtually worthless.

This would be an interesting topic for the politics and society board.