I think it is not as important for the safety of theymos to BAN Mixers straight away as it is to rather promote a strong statement against the use of criminal funds with existing Mixers. I imagine the Dutch Local Authorities would not be too happy to find out theymos has banned Mixers only to continue promoting Coin Joins but will instead be much happier if theymos made it clear every single time that Mixers are NOT to be used with illegal funds.
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I completely agree, the current wording of the ban is “fundamentally flawed”, but given what is called “existing mixing services” we find that they themselves are not true mixing services “dark web mixers” and have restrictions on conducting some transactions. It is true that this is wrong and a mixing service should not do this. But look at the conditions of use for these two blenders:
https://unijoin.io/en/terms-and-conditionsYou agree that You will not use the Services to perform any type of illegal activity of any sort or to take any action that adversely affects the performance of or the provision by the Service Provider of the Services. Furthermore, You agree that You will not use the Services on Bitcoin that is created, received or given in exchange for, or as a result of, any type of illegal activity. Use of the Services in a manner contrary to local law is generally prohibited.
The prohibition of this paragraph includes, but is not limited to, the following prohibited activities:
sales of narcotics, research chemicals or any controlled substances;
items that infringe or violate any intellectual property rights such as copyrights, trademarks, trade secrets, or patents;
https://yomix.io/en/pages/termsUser may never use the YoMix.IO if his activity related to:
Activity which would violate, or cause a violation of, economic or financial sanctions, trade embargoes, and restrictions imposed, administered or enforced from time to time by governmental authorities, including, without limitation, the U.S. Department of the Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control, the U.S. Department of State, the U.S. Department of Commerce, and any other governmental authorities with jurisdiction over you (collectively, “Sanctions”); and activity which would violate, or assist in violation of, laws, statutes, ordinances, or regulations regarding the publishing, distribution or dissemination of any unlawful material or information.
Drugs, and tools specifically intended for the production of drugs, Drug paraphernalia Illegal Drugs, substances designed to mimic illegal drugs, and/or other psycho active products (e.g.,K2, salvia divinorum, nitrate inhalers, bath salts, synthetic cannabis, herbal smoking blends, herbal incense, and HCG/HGH-like substances)
So even the providers of these services cooperate with the authorities and payments may not be processed if they are on the OFAC list, yet they are mixing services.
Frankly, I was hoping that several proposals would be put forward and voted on. In the end, it is a community-run forum and not controlled by a single individual, and I do not think that anyone will help in promoting illegal services.