Quote from: philipma1957 on December 02, 2023, 11:06:30 PM

Quote from: PrivacyG on December 02, 2023, 10:42:06 PM

Quote from: LoyceV on December 02, 2023, 07:20:45 PM

Are you willing to do that publicly? Judging by your username, and judging by what I've read about you, you value your privacy. I don't think Bitcointalk's Admin isn't as anonymous as you are, which means there can be real-life consequences.

I do agree there can be real life consequences. This is why I am thinking of a different approach. I think censoring from the start is drawing a very thin line and makes the future even more uncertain for Bitcoin Talk,

Quote from: PrivacyG on December 02, 2023, 03:55:53 PM

A better route would have been maybe requiring Mixers to advertise on Bitcoin Talk only if the links direct you first to a page where you are shown some sort of warning about using the Service for criminal purposes. Or requiring such warning to be included in the Signature Campaign. Some body who WANTS to use a Mixer will look for it anyway, whether the link is available on Bitcoin Talk directly or not. After all, you can not oblige some body to not break the law. But you can show a preventive warning.

I think it is not as important for the safety of theymos to BAN Mixers straight away as it is to rather promote a strong statement against the use of criminal funds with existing Mixers. I imagine the Dutch Local Authorities would not be too happy to find out theymos has banned Mixers only to continue promoting Coin Joins but will instead be much happier if theymos made it clear every single time that Mixers are NOT to be used with illegal funds.

Otherwise it sets a dangerous precedent.

I think of it like smoking ads. You are being told cigarettes can destroy your health. Now you know the risk and continuing to do so will only decline your health. Even at a first glance, it would make Bitcoin Talk much less suspicious to Authorities than the version we have today. Then the possible consequences are much lower for theymos too. What can they do to some body who has explicitly publicly stood against the criminal use of Mixers? Now compare that to what they can do to some body who banned Mixers only to continue supporting the one thing they hate the MOST. Coin Joins and Monero. They would have a much better case to form that way.

I guess.

Coin Join / Monero is not the way to go here.

My opinion is don't do Coin Join / Monero

State they are not allowed on the forum 2024.

Leave hiding shit alone.

Wait til the 2024 election. Maybe Next President admin alters rules.

Pot was illegal in most USA states now lots of states make it legal.

So maybe by Feb 2025 mixers are not so bad.

Well, let's just say many people on this forum hate Trump with a passion (despite Biden being 1000 times worse than Trump's presidency)... Roll Eyes

Quote from: mindrust on Today at 08:37:57 AM

C'mon guys. Why the grim faces? It is not the end of the world. There is a world outside this forum too.

You can still flip burgers. It is not that bad.

Cheer up

Some people don't like working (neither cooking), but they do like food delivery from McDonalds and other sources. Wink

That's why they need their mixer income... Cool

Quote from: KTChampions on Today at 09:27:45 AM

And by the way, the money received for flipping hamburgers can only be spent with permission from officials, so as not to increase the carbon footprint or anything else. But this is not slavery, this is all for your good! Grin

They will flip eco-friendly burgers made from bugs/insects/worms. Grin

(yet another "conspiracy theory" according to some folks on this forum)